just more speculation about RGIII

[tooge]

Well, at least they mention the chiefs


Robert Griffin trade rumors already spinning out of control
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 28, 2012, 4:04 PM EST

APForget the Combine. Forget free agency. Robert Griffin III trade chatter dominates the NFL discussion these days.

And it’s still February.

Perhaps Rams COO Kevin Demoff is right: It’s getting less crazy to imagine a deal could be completed before free agency. We’ve read and heard an unprecedented amount of trade rumors about the No. 2 overall pick for this time of year.

Let’s go over the latest:

1. Mike Jones of the Washington Post writes the Redskins would give up the No. 6 overall pick and next year’s first round pick in addition to multiple picks in the mid-to-upper rounds of the draft. Consider this the starting point for negotiations.

The Rams are reportedly looking for a similar package to the one San Diego netted for Eli Manning: Two firsts (including the No. 4 overall pick), a third- and fifth-round pick. The Redskins sound ready to meet this demand.

2. Texas A&M prospect Ryan Tannehill is watching the Griffin talk closely. Jones believes the Redskins would take Tannehill at No. 6 overal if they can’t get Griffin.

3. Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer believes the Browns will ultimately have to give up three first-round picks in order to land Griffin. Do I hear four, Redskins? (This reminds us of a classic article by the Onion.)

4. Demoff told Peter King of SI.com that the Rams received a feeler from a team “you would never expect.” Does Kansas City count? If not, we’ll roll with Philadelphia as our irresponsible guess for a mystery team. Enter your pick below.

5. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch considers the Redskins the early favorite to land Griffin. This sounds true based on all the reports, plus Mike Shanahan’s close relationship with Jeff Fisher.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Wait one year.

This gets said every year.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by Bane

We've only sucked for 30 years man.....We'll take a QB some other time BRAH!!!

It's hard to match your pick up with Mel Kipers ratings. I mean, if he has a QB rated as the 10th best player, and you have the 15th pick, it's game over man. Better try again next year. It's not worth trading extra picks to trade up. What if he busts! We'll be out that backup TE and backup S we would have drafted with those 4th and 5th round picks.

Good news though. You'll probably have the 15th pick again since your super deep, super talented team was able to carry some shitty QB to a 7-9 record again. HOORAY!!!

I sure hope one of those second tier non-franchise changing QB's is still there next year!! (But they have to be rated by mel to be picked there. I'm NOT reaching for a QB. This isn't Madden.)

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'd rather wait until 2013. If you want a QB to test out, bring in Clausen--he's better than anyone you're going to find after Tannehill (who I think is a decent pick, but hell no if it's going to be at #11).

I think 2013 will end up being not a better class, but it's going to have a ton more second-tier first round talent (in my opinion, Tannehill is second round talent being forced into a #1 pick by desperate teams).

Those two words sum up the Chiefs (and yours) philosophy the past 40 years. As long as asses are in the seats, it is OK to be second tier.

Guess what? People are sick and tired of KC being second tier.

7-9 is no longer going to cut it for the fan base--well, except for you.

[Bane]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

It's hard to match your pick up with Mel Kipers ratings. I mean, if he has a QB rated as the 10th best player, and you have the 15th pick, it's game over man. Better try again next year. It's not worth trading extra picks to trade up. What if he busts! We'll be out that backup TE and backup S we would have drafted with those 4th and 5th round picks.

Good news though. You'll probably have the 15th pick again since your super deep, super talented team was able to carry some shitty QB to a 7-9 record again. HOORAY!!!

I sure hope one of those second tier non-franchise changing QB's is still there!! (But they have to be rated by mel to be picked there. I'm NOT reaching for a QB. This isn't Madden.)

Yeah but we have Matt ****ing Cassel.....Downfield,dagger throwing demon from hell and Scott Pioli pulling the strings.That's much better than a good,young QB that can actually play the position.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Those two words sum up the Chiefs (and yours) philosophy the past 40 years. As long as asses are in the seats, it is OK to be second tier.

Guess what? People are sick and tired of KC being second tier.

7-9 is no longer going to cut it for the fan base--well, except for you.

That's not what he is saying at all. He's saying that RG3 is not worth 10-14 picks or whatever its going to take to move up to #2. Add in the fact that the 2013 draft has more depth at QB than this year. This year is truly a shallow draft at the QB position. You have Luck who is as good as gone, RG3 who will be taken #2 by a team that morgages the farm, and a converted college WR that started one year in college. In 2013 there will be 4-5 QB's worthy of a true first round grade.
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[Bane]

Originally Posted by TRR

That's not what he is saying at all. He's saying that RG3 is not worth 10-14 picks or whatever its going to take to move up to #2. Add in the fact that the 2013 draft has more depth at QB than this year. This year is truly a shallow draft at the QB position. You have Luck who is as good as gone, RG3 who will be taken #2 by a team that morgages the farm, and a converted college WR that started one year in college. In 2013 there will be 4-5 QB's worthy of a true first round grade.
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Maybe but I'm so tired of hearing WELL NEXT YEAR...........

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Bane

Maybe but I'm so tired of hearing WELL NEXT YEAR...........

You and me both.
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[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by TRR

That's not what he is saying at all. He's saying that RG3 is not worth 10-14 picks or whatever its going to take to move up to #2. Add in the fact that the 2013 draft has more depth at QB than this year. This year is truly a shallow draft at the QB position. You have Luck who is as good as gone, RG3 who will be taken #2 by a team that morgages the farm, and a converted college WR that started one year in college. In 2013 there will be 4-5 QB's worthy of a true first round grade.
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10-14 picks?????

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by TRR

That's not what he is saying at all. He's saying that RG3 is not worth 10-14 picks or whatever its going to take to move up to #2. Add in the fact that the 2013 draft has more depth at QB than this year. This year is truly a shallow draft at the QB position. You have Luck who is as good as gone, RG3 who will be taken #2 by a team that morgages the farm, and a converted college WR that started one year in college. In 2013 there will be 4-5 QB's worthy of a true first round grade.
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I understand EXACTLY what he is saying. The detractors seem to be the only ones who don't understand what EVERYONE else is saying.

Yes, we are saying push all the chips in. And push them in for RG3.

We think RG3 is the perfect QB for KC. If there is any team in the NFL that already has the pieces in place for RG3 to thrive, it is KC. With RG3, we believe that KC is turned into a perennial winner.

We get it.

We may lose with that bet.

We get it.

Guess what? We can all live with that bet. The detractors can't.

We get it.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

10-14 picks?????

I know, right? It goes from 4-6 picks yesterday to 10-14 picks today....

[Bewbies]

I wouldn't trade away 10 years worth of draft picks for one player. I also think naming rights to Arrowhead is a bit much.

[Okie_Apparition]

IS this thread a Stuart Smalley skit

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I understand EXACTLY what he is saying. You two seem to be the only ones who don't understand what EVERYONE else is saying.

Yes, we are saying push all the chips in. And push them in for RG3.

We think RG3 is the perfect QB for KC. If there is any team in the NFL that already has the pieces in place for RG3 to thrive, it is KC. With RG3, we believe that KC is turned into a perennial winner.

We get it.

We may lose with that bet.

We get it.

Guess what? We can all live with that bet. You two can't.

We get it.

Haha! Oh I can live with it for sure. That doesn't make it the smart thing to do. I would challenge you to ask why you think RG3 is that QB to morgage the future on other than he's a first round QB but I really don't want to waste the time...

Drafting a QB in the first round is the new trendy CP thing to do...Damn the cost! I get your stance.

Bottom line is...KC trading up for RG3 will NEVER happen.
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[milkman]

Originally Posted by TRR

That's not what he is saying at all. He's saying that RG3 is not worth 10-14 picks or whatever its going to take to move up to #2. Add in the fact that the 2013 draft has more depth at QB than this year. This year is truly a shallow draft at the QB position. You have Luck who is as good as gone, RG3 who will be taken #2 by a team that morgages the farm, and a converted college WR that started one year in college. In 2013 there will be 4-5 QB's worthy of a true first round grade.
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I've been talking about the fact that next year is perceived as a deeper class than this year, but the reality is that we don't know.

We hear every year that next year is going to be deeper, and it rarely actually ever happens.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I know, right? It goes from 4-6 picks yesterday to 10-14 picks today....

It depends on what or who you believe. KC would have to, without a doubt, give up the entire 2012 draft (7 picks) at minimum to jump from 11 to 2. Would that be enough?
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