Is this being too judgmental?

[Titty Meat]

Today I saw something I thought was pretty shitty and shared it with facebook. I saw a visibly pregnant women smoking outside of Arby's with a Co-worker. I called this women a selfish POS and was told by someone how that's ****ed up and I was being judgmental. Was I in the wrong?

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Yes, I recall you bringing this up before. The thing is, you can find isolated incidences of lung cancer in non-smokers...it happens. There are other things that can contribute to it.

With that said, I have no issue with workplace smoking bans, no one should be subjected to that on a daily basis. Hell, even the restaurant ban didn't bother me. But we crossed the line over to absurdity with the bar ban and there are even places where smoking outdoors is being controlled. Walking by someone who is smoking outside isn't going to give anyone lung cancer.

I have problems with any private building being told to ban smoking. Period. Has ZERO to do with smokers rights.. they have the right to smoke in private all they want. It is about property rights of the business owner.

I am far more likely to support a ban on smoking in a public park then I am in a privately owned building.

On the subject of non-smokers with lung cancer... there are a ton of other risk factors like asbestos or radon to consider. 15% of lung cancer patients have not been significantly exposed to tobacco smoke in any way. Again, sorry that your family is experiencing this.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I have problems with any private building being told to ban smoking. Period. Has ZERO to do with smokers rights.. they have the right to smoke in private all they want. It is about property rights of the business owner.

I am far more likely to support a ban on smoking in a public park then I am in a privately owned building.

I can see your point, but it's a lot easier to separate yourself from someone who is smoking in a park than from someone smoking in the cubicle next to you at work.

[DeezNutz]

I would have said something. No choice.

[Earthling]

Originally Posted by Phobia

In support of a defenseless child? Why wouldn't you? Unless you're the type of person who gets a kick out of confrontation the very act of objecting seems to imply that you care more about the kid than the woman carrying him/her.

If you are totally convinced that she is harming the fetus then I am not going to say that you are wrong to say something to her. But, without knowing anything at all about what this lady was smoking, how often she smoked, or any circumstances about her at all, then I just don't see the justification for it.

Originally Posted by Earthling

If you are totally convinced that she is harming the fetus then I am not going to say that you are wrong to say something to her. But, without knowing anything at all about what this lady was smoking, how often she smoked, or any circumstances about her at all, then I just don't see the justification for it.

You seem to be suggesting that the woman just grabbed a random cig in the middle of the day and decided to smoke it. People who smoke either do or they don't. Women don't start smoking or smoke one per week when they are visibly pregnant. If you're smoking in public with a big fat belly, you're more likely to be smoking 2 packs a day than 2 sticks.

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I'm sorry about your wife's grandmother but you know full well that anecdotal evidence is not evidence at all in a serious discussion of the risks.

I agree with that. I just get grumpy when people talk about those who don't like the smell. Sometimes my body warns me about shit that is bad for me by sending signals. Now and then the signals are translated utilizing the sense of smell. I don't like the smell of fertilizer either. That's why I don't bathe in it. If it starts showing up in my bathtub spigot I hope somebody will make a law.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Phobia

I agree with that. I just get grumpy when people talk about those who don't like the smell. Sometimes my body warns me about shit that is bad for me by sending signals. Now and then the signals are translated utilizing the sense of smell. I don't like the smell of fertilizer either. That's why I don't bathe in it. If it starts showing up in my bathtub spigot I hope somebody will make a law.

Well shoot, I like the smell of paint and gasoline and glue... (no I don't huff them) but I don't bathe in them either. Ok, maybe that's a bad analogy since you know I just don't bathe.

But since I am bored, I am going to spin off a second hand smoke thread and see if I can sucker someone into arguing it with me.

Seriously though, I don't have a problem with smoke-free bars. The smell of a random cig outside doesn't bother me but I hate smelling like an ashtray if I choose to grab a few beers. I'm not sure it needs to be a government intervention thing but there should be some smokers clubs somewhere so those stinky bastards can stink away from me.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Seriously though, I don't have a problem with smoke-free bars. The smell of a random cig outside doesn't bother me but I hate smelling like an ashtray if I choose to grab a few beers. I'm not sure it needs to be a government intervention thing but there should be some smokers clubs somewhere so those stinky bastards can stink away from me.

I agree with this in that there is a demand for smoke free bars, therefore bar owners can choose to go smoke-free... while others can be smoke filled. Leave the decision up to the guy whose life is invested in the business.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Seriously though, I don't have a problem with smoke-free bars. The smell of a random cig outside doesn't bother me but I hate smelling like an ashtray if I choose to grab a few beers. I'm not sure it needs to be a government intervention thing but there should be some smokers clubs somewhere so those stinky bastards can stink away from me.

Go to Kansas. They're all smoke free.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I agree with this in that there is a demand for smoke free bars, therefore bar owners can choose to go smoke-free... while others can be smoke filled. Leave the decision up to the guy whose life is invested in the business.

Your posts on this subject are garbage. 100% of them.

Humans will kill each other (and themselves) if not properly subjugated.

[Aries Walker]

I have no problem with chewing the woman out. Defending the defenseless is basic morality.

The third party who called you judgmental was probably a friend of hers, trying to defend her noxious habit. Ignore that person.

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Go to Kansas. They're all smoke free.

All smoke-free in Lee's Summit as well. I never knew how much nicer it was to arrive home from a bar not smelling like I personally smoked a pack of cigarettes.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

I have no problem with chewing the woman out. Defending the defenseless is basic morality.

The third party who called you judgmental was probably a friend of hers, trying to defend her noxious habit. Ignore that person.

I don't care about the judgmental stuff.

Walking up to a complete stranger and calling them a piece of shit is over the line.

He could have used some tact and tried to educate her without insulting her.

[durtyrute]

Mind your own business