Chiefs Eric Berry - Page 12

Titty Meat · 10-09-2014, 12:36 PM

We know what it's going to cost to keep him. Question is he worth the money? Has this defense missed him?

I think there's a noticeable difference without Berry against the run. The pass defense looks similar though.

For a team in cap trouble I don't think Berry is a must re-sign guy.

Hootie · 10-09-2014, 09:24 PM

oh good grief guys

Eric Berry is the background on my phone and currently my favorite Chiefs player

but he's not been as good as Earl Thomas

Urc Burry · 10-09-2014, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Thomas has 15 and Berry has 8. Try to do math on earth...ok?

I am not counting a full season Berry missed because of a cheap shot against him. You are bending these stats so they help your argument

**BossChief** · 10-09-2014, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

I am not counting a full season Berry missed because of a cheap shot against him. You are bending these stats so they help your argument

I'm not bending anything. I'm not gonna just act like the guy has been reliable, either. Where's he now?

Urc Burry · 10-09-2014, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

oh good grief guys

Eric Berry is the background on my phone and currently my favorite Chiefs player

but he's not been as good as Earl Thomas

I don't think he is either. But he is #2 in my book. He has gotten to be very under appreciated around here

Hootie · 10-09-2014, 09:27 PM

well he needs to be on the field

no doubt

he's been good, sometimes great

but I expected elite

OldSchool · 10-09-2014, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

well he needs to be on the field

no doubt

he's been good, sometimes great

but I expected elite

Being drafted so high and watching him play in college, I expected the next HOF safety.

**BossChief** · 10-09-2014, 09:30 PM

Exactly. I thought he would be the sophomore Eric Berry from Tennessee the BIGTIME playmaking...thrilling to watch and scary to have to face player they made music videos about...nope...he's been Kiffens box safety.

Mr. Laz · 10-09-2014, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I'm not letting the 25-year old safety walk.

I doubt the Chiefs will either.

7 years, 70 million?

I mean you are not letting him walk so back the truck up.

Houston another 100 million because nobody is 'letting him walk' either.

Just how much of the salary cap is everyone willing to use to keep Berry?

WhiteWhale · 10-09-2014, 09:41 PM

Yeah, well I'm done with this thread. Little substance other than 'he hasn't met my unrealistic expectations"

IMO, this thread is full reerun. Folks bitched around here that we needed an elite safety and when we get one they want to let him walk. Go figure.

Again, this is why we can't have nice things. Sometimes I forget this is the same fanbase that wanted to trade Derrick Thomas half of his career in KC.

Mr. Laz · 10-09-2014, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Yeah, well I'm done with this thread. Little substance other than 'he hasn't met my unrealistic expectations"

IMO, this thread is full reerun. Folks bitched around here that we needed an elite safety and when we get one they want to let him walk. Go figure.

Again, this is why we can't have nice things. Sometimes I forget this is the same fanbase that wanted to trade Derrick Thomas half of his career in KC.

Eric Berry's first contract was 50 million.

He isn't going to want a paycut. How much are you willing to pay?

The more you give Berry the less you have for Houston.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-09-2014, 09:46 PM

Yeah, I said I was being sarcastic because I was. I'd wager if you flipped these two players teams they play for, Berry would be the all star everyone thought he was going too be when he came into the league. I don't think Earl is better. I think he's coached better, and has better personnel around him. JMO.

Deberg_1990 · 10-09-2014, 09:50 PM

Who's greater....Eric Berry or Jerome Woods?

ThaVirus · 10-09-2014, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Wild guess here but Berry has had far more opportunities to do so. Thomas is typically in the center-fielder role for the Seahawks and doesn't play in the box nearly as often as Berry does.

Yeah, that's the point. Any time BossChief talks about Berry he compares him to Jairus Byrd and Earl Thomas, claiming he should be getting more INTs.

A more apt comparison would be Kam Chancellor and TJ Ward. Guess what? Berry has more a impactful stat sheet than both of them.

SURPRISE, MOTHER****ER!

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Thomas has 15 picks

Berry has 8

Others have already answered for me but you're really going to count the year he went out with an ACL injury in week 1?

Earl Thomas averages barely over 1 more INT than Berry per year while being put in position to do so.

Meanwhile, do you want to know how many more sacks, QB hits, and hurries Berry averages over Thomas? Because Berry led all safeties in the league in those categories last season. Plus he makes more plays behind the line of scrimmage.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Yes. Thomas has phenomenal instincts, is a great tackler, and his athleticism is more than on par with Berry's.

He's also 5'10" 185 pounds and a horrendous open field tackler.

Don't let the LOB hype train fool you. Thomas has flaws as well.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Exactly. I thought he would be the sophomore Eric Berry from Tennessee the BIGTIME playmaking...thrilling to watch and scary to have to face player they made music videos about...nope...he's been Kiffens box safety.

So we're blaming Berry for scheme now?

Direckshun · 10-09-2014, 11:25 PM

I think Berry is a critical element of the defense. I know the Chiefs will keep him.

kcxiv · 10-09-2014, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Being drafted so high and watching him play in college, I expected the next HOF safety.

Well he's also had some shitty ass coaches got his knee took out. What can you do. sometimes it doesnt work out the way it should

10-09-2014, 12:36 PM
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	oh good grief guys Eric Berry is the background on my phone and currently my favorite Chiefs player but he's not been as good as Earl Thomas
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	well he needs to be on the field no doubt he's been good, sometimes great but I expected elite
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1514088	Exactly. I thought he would be the sophomore Eric Berry from Tennessee the BIGTIME playmaking...thrilling to watch and scary to have to face player they made music videos about...nope...he's been Kiffens box safety. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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WhiteWhale Bring it on Ahab! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Doo-Dah Casino cash: $10015152	Yeah, well I'm done with this thread. Little substance other than 'he hasn't met my unrealistic expectations" IMO, this thread is full reerun. Folks bitched around here that we needed an elite safety and when we get one they want to let him walk. Go figure. Again, this is why we can't have nice things. Sometimes I forget this is the same fanbase that wanted to trade Derrick Thomas half of his career in KC.
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3634454	Who's greater....Eric Berry or Jerome Woods? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4173447	I think Berry is a critical element of the defense. I know the Chiefs will keep him.
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