Chiefs LNBS: 10 Things KC Needs to Happen to be a Super Bowl Contender - Page 12

**BossChief** · 08-26-2016, 10:28 PM

I can see this team going all the way if these things come to fruition:

1) Alex Smith stays healthy. I know some will scoff at making this the first thing I list, but Alex is going to be in his comfort zone all year. Solid line, dependable producers in Maclin, Kelce, Charles, West, Ware among others. He knows the whole offense front to back and will be able to go out there and sling it. Andy Reid said he turned the keys to the offense over to Alex after Jamaal went down last year and the offense responded.

Pure and simple, Alex needs to stay on the field for the team to be a serious contender. I'm a big Foles fan, but right now, Alex is a better player.

2) Justin Houston needs to return at some point and be his dominating self. He doesn't need to be here right away, but somewhere around midseason, we will need him. No question about it, if he can't return this year, this won't be a Super Bowl team. We need that edge rush to be top shelf to win in the postseason and without Houston, that's not going to happen. The secondary is going to be very young, and therefore will likely be mistake prone...a guy like Houston hides a lot of those mistakes.

Without him, we can win a playoff game, but the Chiefs won't win a title without him...sure would be fun to watch if Dee Ford steps up and Houston returns to his old self while Hali completes a rotation. Sky's the limit then.

3) Phillip Gaines needs to step up and lock down that #2 corner spot. The kid has unreal quickness, ball skills and raw speed and he has the best chance to be a difference maker across from Peters. We desperately need someone to fill Sean Smiths shoes and I think Gaines is going to do a great job. If he solidifies that CB spot, this defense is going to be very tough to beat down the stretch. If he doesn't solidify that spot, the defense could struggle, given the dropoff in pass rush productivity without Houston...cover guys (young cover guys) need to cover longer....that could make for some long games.

We really need him to step up, stay healthy and play to his ability level.

4) Chris Conley needs to show that what he did to Trumaine Johnson against the Rams wasn't a fluke. Right now, he looks like a guy that is ready to take the next step in his development and lock down that second receiver spot. For our offense, that could spell doom for opposing defenses. Teams will be spending a lot of time and on field resources scheming to stop the run game,mMaclin and Kelce...they will roll coverages and bracket those guys and bring numbers to stop our running game...that's gonna leave lots of opportunities for Conley to break big plays. He needs to make the most of those opportunities for this offense to take a step forward.

5) Dee Ford needs to finish plays. I guess we all need to accept that Dee isn't gonna be a fire breather. It's just not him. What we should expect is for him to finish the type of plays he wasn't able to finish last year. For the defense to be championship caliber with this many young DBs, Dee Ford needs to be fired out of a cannon and wrap up the ball carrier/QB when he is able to "get home". No way around it...if he sucks this year, this isn't a team with championship aspirations. He's a HUGE piece of this machine.

6) Tyreek Hill needs to provide significant impact. I think he will be our kick and punt returner while also playing a significant role on offense. Something like 160 total touches. I won't be surprised if he scores 8tds. His speed is something nobody in the league will be prepared for on Sunday's because he's probably the fastest player in the league.

The fun part about Hill is that he will be working against man coverage a TON against 3rd and 4th corners AT BEST...there will be plenty of times where he will be matched up on a safety... And there's nothing a defense can do about it. You can't double everyone.

Kids gonna eat.

7) Eric Murray needs to play like a vet...and right away. Rivers, Osweiler, Rothlisberger and other QBs we will face early on are going to target him. He's a rookie transitioning to a new position and will be tested...especially since he will be playing a lot in sub packages. I'm as excited about this kid as I am about Jones and Hill, but he's gonna have a trial by fire. Should be fun to see how he responds.

8) Eric Berry needs to be a total beast. I'm talking sophomore year at Tennesee when he had 7ints, 8.5 TFL, 3 sacks and 2 defensive scores. We need that guy. We need a guy that takes away the deep ball while paired with another blazing fast safety and forces opposing teams to work around him and also blitzes like a savage. We need Berry to be prime Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed. I'm anxious to see how Eric plays this year.

9) Marcus Peters needs to make the most of his opportunities. He has done so and is a phenom...but now that teams have film on him, he needs to be ready for counter punches. The defense is going to need as many turnovers as possible and opposing QBs will probably target guys that don't wear #22 often...Peters needs to make them pay when they do try to test him.

10) Chris Jones needs to get a lot of playing time. Whatever Sutton needs to do, he needs to have Chris Jones out there disrupting plays and tossing OL around the field. This kid will be a big help to the DBs because he's gonna force opposing passers to get rid of thr ball sooner than they want.

He's gonna be the next DROTY if Sutton gives him enough opportunities to do so.

Obligatory #11 score more points than the other team.

staylor26 · 09-02-2016, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I remember the bleeding all over the board that asshole did when we signed s. Smith.

It was ****ing reeruned.

I remember trying to explain that he wasn't a scheme fit in Miami like he was in KC and all that ****ing moron wanted to do was post PFF bullshit.

**jjchieffan** · 09-02-2016, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

It was ****ing reeruned.

I remember trying to explain that he wasn't a scheme fit in Miami like he was in KC and all that ****ing moron wanted to do was post PFF bullshit.

I hope that's the case with Acker. Once he gets accustomed to our scheme, he will be a good fit and excel. But, if not he didn't cost much.

RunKC · 09-02-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

It was ****ing reeruned.

I remember trying to explain that he wasn't a scheme fit in Miami like he was in KC and all that ****ing moron wanted to do was post PFF bullshit.

Clay is a sad human.

**BossChief** · 09-02-2016, 11:24 PM

I still can't believe Hill dropped those passes.

I didn't see him drop a single ball in practice and everybody there said they hadn't seen him drop one the whole time they'd been there.

Probably just nerves.

It's a shame because if he catches those passes and Foles doesn't under throw him on that deep ball the week before, Tyreek Hill would be looked at as a budding star right now.

I'm telling you...give it time cause this kid can catch the ball.

**PHOG** · 09-02-2016, 11:28 PM

Luck x9 and being goodx1

OldSchool · 09-02-2016, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I hope that's the case with Acker. Once he gets accustomed to our scheme, he will be a good fit and excel. But, if not he didn't cost much.

Acker's problem doesn't seem to have anything to do with the scheme. He just panics, like a lot of young corners, on the deep ball.

RunKC · 09-03-2016, 12:01 AM

Mentioned this in the other thread. This offseason reminds me of the panic of the 2014 offseason.

Remember 2014 on CP? The following players departed:

Branden Albert
DMC
Brandon Flowers
Geoff Schwartz
Akeem Jordan
Jon Asamoah
Quinten Demps
Tyson Jackson

The Chiefs went 9-7 and missed the playoff by 1 game with their 2 starting OL (Allen/Stephenson) out for the year.
This team is better the 2014 team.

Oh, and the Chiefs were the 2nd ranked pass defense with Gaines and Fleming out there in 2014. Here's their record without the following players:

W/out Houston: 6-1
W/out DJ: 9-6
W/out JC: 11-1
W/ out Berry: 2-3

Combined: 28-11

Maybe it's time to start trusting the coaching staff and John Dorsey...

BlackOp · 09-03-2016, 04:22 AM

#1. Have a HOF QB retire out of your division....

#2. All the star players have HGH sent to their house in their wife's name.

#3. Have Dorsey juke the cap by about $20 million extra...and buy a few players. Blame it on some accounting glitch...

Hammock Parties · 09-03-2016, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I still can't believe Hill dropped those passes.

I didn't see him drop a single ball in practice and everybody there said they hadn't seen him drop one the whole time they'd been there.

Training camp phenom.

It happens. We should be used to it right now but some just keep ****ing that chicken.

Halfcan · 09-03-2016, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

I still can't believe Hill dropped those passes.

I didn't see him drop a single ball in practice and everybody there said they hadn't seen him drop one the whole time they'd been there.

Probably just nerves.

It's a shame because if he catches those passes and Foles doesn't under throw him on that deep ball the week before, Tyreek Hill would be looked at as a budding star right now.

I'm telling you...give it time cause this kid can catch the ball.

If the first pass was anywhere close to the mark-it would have been a touchdown. Instead it was high and way behind him so he had to make twisting attempt at it. Hill had massive separation from his guy. The second one was also a shitty pass- if it is out in front of him-it is also a TD. It came in low and I think the defender did just enough to break his concentration.

In both cases Hill had his guy beat but our QB's could not get the pass in there. Since he did get his hands on it-it should most likely have been a catch. Both were shitty off target passes though.

Hammock Parties · 09-03-2016, 08:34 AM

Both passes should be caught by an NFL receiver.

Period.

Halfcan · 09-03-2016, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Smellway

Both passes should have been close to the target by an NFL Quarterback.

Period.

FYP

If that was Alex throwing those horrendous passes and missing out on two easy TD's - I think your focus would be off Hill.

Yes he most likely should have caught those-but that does not negate the fact that he was wide open and the QB's missed him.

staylor26 · 09-03-2016, 08:49 AM

Alshon Jeffrey dropped a couple balls when we played the Bears. Guess he sucks too.

Halfcan · 09-03-2016, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

Alshon Jeffrey dropped a couple balls when we played the Bears. Guess he sucks too.

Your love for Jeffrey is getting kind of creepy.

Hammock Parties · 09-03-2016, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

Alshon Jeffrey dropped a couple balls when we played the Bears. Guess he sucks too.

lol comparing this guy to a real NFL receiver is hilarious

he has proven nothing except he can run fast and drop balls and field punts

08-26-2016, 10:28 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $464088	LNBS: 10 Things KC Needs to Happen to be a Super Bowl Contender I can see this team going all the way if these things come to fruition: 1) Alex Smith stays healthy. I know some will scoff at making this the first thing I list, but Alex is going to be in his comfort zone all year. Solid line, dependable producers in Maclin, Kelce, Charles, West, Ware among others. He knows the whole offense front to back and will be able to go out there and sling it. Andy Reid said he turned the keys to the offense over to Alex after Jamaal went down last year and the offense responded. Pure and simple, Alex needs to stay on the field for the team to be a serious contender. I'm a big Foles fan, but right now, Alex is a better player. 2) Justin Houston needs to return at some point and be his dominating self. He doesn't need to be here right away, but somewhere around midseason, we will need him. No question about it, if he can't return this year, this won't be a Super Bowl team. We need that edge rush to be top shelf to win in the postseason and without Houston, that's not going to happen. The secondary is going to be very young, and therefore will likely be mistake prone...a guy like Houston hides a lot of those mistakes. Without him, we can win a playoff game, but the Chiefs won't win a title without him...sure would be fun to watch if Dee Ford steps up and Houston returns to his old self while Hali completes a rotation. Sky's the limit then. 3) Phillip Gaines needs to step up and lock down that #2 corner spot. The kid has unreal quickness, ball skills and raw speed and he has the best chance to be a difference maker across from Peters. We desperately need someone to fill Sean Smiths shoes and I think Gaines is going to do a great job. If he solidifies that CB spot, this defense is going to be very tough to beat down the stretch. If he doesn't solidify that spot, the defense could struggle, given the dropoff in pass rush productivity without Houston...cover guys (young cover guys) need to cover longer....that could make for some long games. We really need him to step up, stay healthy and play to his ability level. 4) Chris Conley needs to show that what he did to Trumaine Johnson against the Rams wasn't a fluke. Right now, he looks like a guy that is ready to take the next step in his development and lock down that second receiver spot. For our offense, that could spell doom for opposing defenses. Teams will be spending a lot of time and on field resources scheming to stop the run game,mMaclin and Kelce...they will roll coverages and bracket those guys and bring numbers to stop our running game...that's gonna leave lots of opportunities for Conley to break big plays. He needs to make the most of those opportunities for this offense to take a step forward. 5) Dee Ford needs to finish plays. I guess we all need to accept that Dee isn't gonna be a fire breather. It's just not him. What we should expect is for him to finish the type of plays he wasn't able to finish last year. For the defense to be championship caliber with this many young DBs, Dee Ford needs to be fired out of a cannon and wrap up the ball carrier/QB when he is able to "get home". No way around it...if he sucks this year, this isn't a team with championship aspirations. He's a HUGE piece of this machine. 6) Tyreek Hill needs to provide significant impact. I think he will be our kick and punt returner while also playing a significant role on offense. Something like 160 total touches. I won't be surprised if he scores 8tds. His speed is something nobody in the league will be prepared for on Sunday's because he's probably the fastest player in the league. The fun part about Hill is that he will be working against man coverage a TON against 3rd and 4th corners AT BEST...there will be plenty of times where he will be matched up on a safety... And there's nothing a defense can do about it. You can't double everyone. Kids gonna eat. 7) Eric Murray needs to play like a vet...and right away. Rivers, Osweiler, Rothlisberger and other QBs we will face early on are going to target him. He's a rookie transitioning to a new position and will be tested...especially since he will be playing a lot in sub packages. I'm as excited about this kid as I am about Jones and Hill, but he's gonna have a trial by fire. Should be fun to see how he responds. 8) Eric Berry needs to be a total beast. I'm talking sophomore year at Tennesee when he had 7ints, 8.5 TFL, 3 sacks and 2 defensive scores. We need that guy. We need a guy that takes away the deep ball while paired with another blazing fast safety and forces opposing teams to work around him and also blitzes like a savage. We need Berry to be prime Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed. I'm anxious to see how Eric plays this year. 9) Marcus Peters needs to make the most of his opportunities. He has done so and is a phenom...but now that teams have film on him, he needs to be ready for counter punches. The defense is going to need as many turnovers as possible and opposing QBs will probably target guys that don't wear #22 often...Peters needs to make them pay when they do try to test him. 10) Chris Jones needs to get a lot of playing time. Whatever Sutton needs to do, he needs to have Chris Jones out there disrupting plays and tossing OL around the field. This kid will be a big help to the DBs because he's gonna force opposing passers to get rid of thr ball sooner than they want. He's gonna be the next DROTY if Sutton gives him enough opportunities to do so. Obligatory #11 score more points than the other team.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $464088	I still can't believe Hill dropped those passes. I didn't see him drop a single ball in practice and everybody there said they hadn't seen him drop one the whole time they'd been there. Probably just nerves. It's a shame because if he catches those passes and Foles doesn't under throw him on that deep ball the week before, Tyreek Hill would be looked at as a budding star right now. I'm telling you...give it time cause this kid can catch the ball. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $759611	Mentioned this in the other thread. This offseason reminds me of the panic of the 2014 offseason. Remember 2014 on CP? The following players departed: Branden Albert DMC Brandon Flowers Geoff Schwartz Akeem Jordan Jon Asamoah Quinten Demps Tyson Jackson The Chiefs went 9-7 and missed the playoff by 1 game with their 2 starting OL (Allen/Stephenson) out for the year. This team is better the 2014 team. Oh, and the Chiefs were the 2nd ranked pass defense with Gaines and Fleming out there in 2014. Here's their record without the following players: W/out Houston: 6-1 W/out DJ: 9-6 W/out JC: 11-1 W/ out Berry: 2-3 Combined: 28-11 Maybe it's time to start trusting the coaching staff and John Dorsey... __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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