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Old 12-17-2017, 04:30 PM  
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Could we see Mahomes against Denver ?

If we beat Miami. Do the Chiefs rest the starters ?
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:25 AM   #166
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Won't happen, he's a "questionable asset" apparently. We just spent two 1sts and a 3rd on him for shits and giggles. The ultimate goal of an NFL season is to have a winning record and make the playoffs. Never making it past the first or 2nd round doesn't matter. It's best to stick with the safe route and go with the proven but limited talent at quarterback. He'll never win a super bowl, but at least he's a good guy and wins regular season games. That's all us simple folk from KC can ask for. Leave the championships to those East Coast teams who actually care about that kind of thing.
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:45 AM   #167
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Won't happen, he's a "questionable asset" apparently. We just spent two 1sts and a 3rd on him for shits and giggles. The ultimate goal of an NFL season is to have a winning record and make the playoffs. Never making it past the first or 2nd round doesn't matter. It's best to stick with the safe route and go with the proven but limited talent at quarterback. He'll never win a super bowl, but at least he's a good guy and wins regular season games. That's all us simple folk from KC can ask for. Leave the championships to those East Coast teams who actually care about that kind of thing.
How many seasons do you give Mahomes to bring us back to the playoffs before you chuck him? Will you be a fan if we are 8-8 two seasons following this one?
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:50 AM   #168
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How many seasons do you give Mahomes to bring us back to the playoffs before you chuck him? Will you be a fan if we are 8-8 two seasons following this one?
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:57 AM   #169
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How many seasons do you give Mahomes to bring us back to the playoffs before you chuck him? Will you be a fan if we are 8-8 two seasons following this one?
Alex Smith didn't have more touchdowns than interceptions in a season until I believe his 5th season in the NFL, and he's a god to some around here.

It's not exactly going to be hard to do better than Smith did as a young player.

Even if Mahomes busts you go right back to the drawing board and draft another one until you get it right. Retread losers weren't the answer when we had Bono, Grbac, Huard, Cassel, etc. and they are not the answer now.
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Old 12-19-2017, 09:43 AM   #170
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Old 12-19-2017, 09:44 AM   #171
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How many seasons do you give Mahomes to bring us back to the playoffs before you chuck him? Will you be a fan if we are 8-8 two seasons following this one?
It will take about 4 games into next season before you have Mahomes full cock and balls completely down your throat.
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Old 12-19-2017, 10:29 AM   #172
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How many seasons do you give Mahomes to bring us back to the playoffs before you chuck him? Will you be a fan if we are 8-8 two seasons following this one?
We are 8-6 right now why wouldn't he be one at 8-8?
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Old 12-19-2017, 10:33 AM   #173
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If we beat Miami and win the division, I think Pat gets the start, but what sucks is he’s going to play with backups against a good defense.
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Old 12-19-2017, 10:46 AM   #174
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First of all, let's worry about winning the division. If we don't beat Miami this weekend, this whole discussion is moot. Secondly, you don't throw Bray out there for trade bait. He's the new #2 if Smith goes during the off season. Unless you have a competent vet backup (and have cash to get him), Bray is #2 next year. I see no harm in giving the kid some experience in the 2nd half. If we do have the division wrapped up, treat it like pre-season game 3.
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:05 AM   #175
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First of all, let's worry about winning the division. If we don't beat Miami this weekend, this whole discussion is moot. Secondly, you don't throw Bray out there for trade bait. He's the new #2 if Smith goes during the off season. Unless you have a competent vet backup (and have cash to get him), Bray is #2 next year. I see no harm in giving the kid some experience in the 2nd half. If we do have the division wrapped up, treat it like pre-season game 3.
This is a good discussion.

But only the players need to worry about the Dolphins
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:07 AM   #176
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Won't happen, he's a "questionable asset" apparently. We just spent two 1sts and a 3rd on him for shits and giggles. The ultimate goal of an NFL season is to have a winning record and make the playoffs. Never making it past the first or 2nd round doesn't matter. It's best to stick with the safe route and go with the proven but limited talent at quarterback. He'll never win a super bowl, but at least he's a good guy and wins regular season games. That's all us simple folk from KC can ask for. Leave the championships to those East Coast teams who actually care about that kind of thing.
The Chiefs started Alex Smith because they didn't think Mahomes was ready. The staff felt that starting Alex was better for Mahomes development, because he still needs work on mechanics and complete knowledge of the playbook.

If KC only cared about nice seasons they never would have spent that draft capital on a future QBOTF
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:08 AM   #177
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If we beat Miami and win the division, I think Pat gets the start, but what sucks is he’s going to play with backups against a good defense.
That's why I'd prefer he not play

Give him a true redshirt year, and start with a clean slate in 2018
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:12 AM   #178
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It will take about 4 games into next season before you have Mahomes full cock and balls completely down your throat.
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:37 AM   #179
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It will take about 4 games into next season before you have Mahomes full cock and balls completely down your throat.
I hope that's the case, because I'm a real fan, and not some of the losers in this thread who are hoping for an early playoff exit with AS.

But I'm also realistic, and realize that many/most QBs are not superstars. We have a good chance of getting past wild card weekend, and would love to see Antonio Brown still not 100% in a Steelers rematch.
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Old 12-19-2017, 06:08 PM   #180
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That's why I'd prefer he not play

Give him a true redshirt year, and start with a clean slate in 2018
So you start smith in a meaningless game or do you start Bray?
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