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Old 05-05-2014, 10:25 AM  
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:00 AM   #1786
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The numbers for these contracts really don't matter. Keeps deal says 61 guaranteed, but it's only like 12 mil in actual hard guarantees.

It's why I don't really get into or care much about getting into debates around here over them. They can be structured so that hey don't hurt the team.
It matters when we are talking about the possibility of using the franchise tag on Smith.
Kaepernick is now the 2cd highest paid QB in the league to Aaron Rodgers. If Wilson and Luck both get new deals in the 25 Mil APY range it will cost us significantly more to tag him.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:04 AM   #1787
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Because they're better than Alex Smith?

This isn't that hard. They've shown that they can be successful without either elite units around them.

You keep wanting to use wins and losses to justify or dispel qb play. It's crap.
Dez Bryant and Jason Whitten aren't well above average players at their positions?

Romo has loads of offensive talent around him.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:04 AM   #1788
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It matters when we are talking about the possibility of using the franchise tag on Smith.
Kaepernick is now the 2cd highest paid QB in the league to Aaron Rodgers. If Wilson and Luck both get new deals in the 25 Mil APY range it will cost us significantly more to tag him.
On paper he may be, but with the way the contract is structured, whether he sees said money is a different thing
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:05 AM   #1789
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If there was an opt-out every year? Not at all. Great way to structure a guy, if you can pull it off. Basically old-school MLB contract style (pre-FA).
So that guaranteed only covers contract and injury?

I'm out.

I really can't argue against this...
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:07 AM   #1790
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Dez Bryant and Jason Whitten aren't well above average players at their positions?

Romo has loads of offensive talent around him.
Loads? Come on.

They're talented players sure, but romo has had a hand in making them better.

It's the nfl we are talking about here. Every team has talented players. But the cowboys have never had an elite offensive line or elite defense to pair with romo
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:08 AM   #1791
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Sounds like a reasonable deal for both parties. I'm fairly sure Smith will sign something reasonable as well.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:10 AM   #1792
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Sounds like a reasonable deal for both parties. I'm fairly sure Smith will sign something reasonable as well.
Based on?

I hope he does, but from everything we've heard it's not looking too likely.

Hopefully we structure it well though
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:12 AM   #1793
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Based on?

I hope he does, but from everything we've heard it's not looking too likely.
What has Dorsey done to make you believe he's not super tight on the wallet?...
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What has Dorsey done to make you believe he's not super tight on the wallet?...
That's what scares me more. Up to this point, Dorsey hasn't done a very good job at all with contractual stuff.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:15 AM   #1795
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Loads? Come on.

They're talented players sure, but romo has had a hand in making them better.

It's the nfl we are talking about here. Every team has talented players. But the cowboys have never had an elite offensive line or elite defense to pair with romo

Who has a better WR/TE combo than Dez and Whitten?

I can't think of anyone.

The only big name big $ QB's with shit talent around them that put up the big numbers I can think of is Rodgers and Brady.
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What has Dorsey done to make you believe he's not super tight on the wallet?...
Paid Fasano and Daniel too much $$.
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That's what scares me more. Up to this point, Dorsey hasn't done a very good job at all with contractual stuff.
He decided to spend on very mediocre talent last offseason.

I wouldn't say he overpaid - I'd argue they had no real upside and contributed little.

His money wasn't the problem it was his evaluation of talent...
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Paid Fasano and Daniel too much $$.
The Daniel contract was ****ing reeruned.

I'm a big Mizzou homer but stupid is stupid...
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The Daniel contract was ****ing reeruned.

I'm a big Mizzou homer but stupid is stupid...
Matt Cassel is getting 2 mil more per year to be a backup.
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Based on?

I hope he does, but from everything we've heard it's not looking too likely.

Hopefully we structure it well though
I have yet to hear anything but speculation about $ from the media.

Smith and KC both have leverage so it should work out. Smith woudl be 32+ by the time he hits FA if we franchised him after this season. He doesn't want to go there.

KC needs stability at the QB position for a while and has no ready solution for the forseable future. Bray and Murray are both developmental.

It will work out. Maybe Smith plays out this year, gets franchised for a year and then we have Murray ready. Who knows.
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