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I said Jordan was maybe the best playoff performer of all time. Of any sport. And you keep passing off meaningless statistics as if that's supposed to put LeBron anywhere near the same conversation as MJ. And again, I showed you stats that said statistically, Peyton Manning was very good in the playoffs too. The stats don't tell the full story. The idea that those stats put LeBron in the same conversation as MJ is laughable. Regardless of what the statistics say, LeBron has a very long way to go before being considered anywhere near an elite playoff performer when you put him up against legends like Bird, Magic, dominant finals performers like Shaq, and even Kobe. Of course he would. He's young. He has a very, very long road to hit MJ level. MJ was pretty much the perfect playoff performer. Your obsession with statistics has got to stop. Putting up good statistical numbers is NOT a sign of playoff productivity. Tracy McGrady has one of the highest PPG totals in playoff history. That doesn't mean he was a great playoff player. As of right now, LeBron is on PACE to be a very good playoff performer. But better than MJ? He has to be damn near perfect from here on out in every facet of the game. |
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02-17-2013, 05:53 PM | #1834 |
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Dude, Rodman was the best pure rebounder of the last 30 years. He would destroy Bosh on the glass. It probably wouldn't even be close.
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02-17-2013, 05:56 PM | #1835 | |
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02-17-2013, 06:07 PM | #1838 |
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You don't win 72 games in a season without a team full of incredibly good players that fit together perfectly. And Wade is/was a better player than Pippen, but they were/are both HOFers.
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Let me be clear about something... you are putting LeBron in the same conversation as MJ from a playoff performance perspective. And you are using stats to prove your point. Joe Montana is probably the best playoff QB in NFL history. Other than wins, what statistic leads you to that conclusion? How do you put a number on Jordan's late game heroics? Statistics are easily misinterpreted and they almost never tell even close to the full story. Yet, you keep relying on them like they're gospel. Quote:
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He owned Malone and Kemp in the Finals. He got so far under both of their skin it was ridiculous. That's something that doesn't show up in the stat book but it played a huge part in the Bulls Finals wins. I honestly thought Rodman had a case for the 1996 NBA Finals MVP. |
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02-17-2013, 06:37 PM | #1843 |
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and people talk about MJ and his 6 titles.
Lets be real here. MJ probably WOULD have won every title in the 90s had he not A) retired the first time B) Reinsdorf paid them all one more time not to retire the second time does anyone realistically think the Bulls would have won every title from 1990-1999 had Jordan came back for one more year AND had he not retired right in the middle of his two three-peats? So the whole "Kobe wants to get 6 so he can be like MJ" thing cracks me up. MJ only got 6 because that's all he felt like getting. |
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and I always laugh when people mock his time in Washington...
the dude, at age 39, averaged 20/6/4 and 1.5 steals with a 45%/30%/82% line. I hated him coming back to Washington but it's not like he was a terrible/washed up player even at age 39. |
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It's not going to be enough for LeBron to win a bunch of games from here on out. If he wants to be in the same conversation as Jordan, he has to win championships in buckets and he HAS to take over playoff games late in the game the way Jordan did. I think LeBron is good at that, but sorry, I just don't think he has the kind of competitive arrogance that Jordan has. I don't think anybody does or has, in the NBA, let alone any sport. Jordan was quite possibly the most competitive athlete to ever play in any sport. |
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