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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.
So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea |
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05-14-2013, 12:58 PM | #1906 | |
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05-14-2013, 01:02 PM | #1907 | |
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I was just trying to pick an example of a team to contrast with the Chiefs. The best recent example is the Seahawks. They didn't trade high picks for mediocrity. They stayed patient and suffered through Tavares Jackson for a year while they built through the draft. They picked up Matt Flynn for nothing as a Free Agent. Then their franchise QB showed up last year and they pared Matt Flynn into late round picks. That is how it is done. That was my point. Showing how the top teams get built. It is not through trading away important draft picks to "win now", unless you are truly one key player from winning the super bowl. The Chiefs were not one key player away. They really needed those 2- 2nd round picks to build their team for the future. I'm not complaining. Like my signature says, "thanks for all the picks". It was just a bad move for a team that wants to build a future SB contender. It is not as if it is insurmountable. All bad moves become delaying setbacks. It doesn't automatically make you the Chicago Cubs. |
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05-14-2013, 01:06 PM | #1908 | |
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Russell Wilson and Kaepernick haven't won big yet, so let's not get ahead of ourselves. But if and when they do, they'll just be more evidence that "win big" isn't out of reach of a team that strives to do what they can reasonably do to win now.
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05-14-2013, 01:09 PM | #1909 | |
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You are going to be very pleased with him, but sometimes very frustrated. Good D and turnovers is a requirement to win it all, but so is a top 10 QB - the only exceptions to that in the past 30 years or so are Dilfer and Hoestetler. Even Brad Johnson was a top 10 QB the year he won the SB. I was going to say top 5, but no way in hell Eli Manning is anything close to a top 5 QB and he has 2 super bowl rings. He rates high in clutch play in big games though. I will give him that much. |
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05-14-2013, 01:12 PM | #1910 | |
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05-14-2013, 01:16 PM | #1911 | |
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wonton prejudice posted this picture a month ago. You really have to be aces at scouting and developing and then have some luck too, to find your franchise QB beyond the 1st round of the draft. |
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05-14-2013, 01:21 PM | #1912 |
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It's not just QB's, better players at each position are found in the first round. There is a reason they are first rounders.
Doesn't mean thats the only place to find one, just that your odds are probably higher there. |
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05-14-2013, 01:23 PM | #1913 | |
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Flynn came cheap because he is an unknown. My only point was that the Chiefs should have kept their 2- 2nd rounders and built their D or O-line or position players, while patiently waiting to find their franchise QB. Instead, the owner forced Reid & Dorsey to "win now". Dumb owner. But thanks for the picks! We love Tank Carradine and still have a 3rd and 7th for next year and your #50-60 overall for next year too. So it is not like I don't appreciate benefiting from your owner's short sightedness. Believe me, I do. |
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05-14-2013, 01:28 PM | #1914 |
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05-14-2013, 02:05 PM | #1915 | |
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And given that 10 of those 16 1st round QBs were either acquired through trade, free agency, or outside the top 10 of the draft, there are way too many opportunities to find a "win big" QB outside the top 10 of the draft to make it attractive to me to forgo a winning QB option in order to have a better chance at a really high draft pick.
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05-14-2013, 02:08 PM | #1916 |
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His massive neg rep came from somewhere. It didn't come from criticizing Alex.
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05-14-2013, 02:08 PM | #1917 | |
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05-14-2013, 02:13 PM | #1918 | |
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I have read thousands of posts here from Chiefs fans who are willing to suffer bad play and bad records for 2 or 3 years while building a championship caliber team. I agree. Trading your #34 one year and your #50 the next is not a good prescription for building a championship team. The owner is short sighted, settling for smaller money and ticket sales now, rather than larger money and ticket prices later off the back side of super bowl runs or wins. |
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05-14-2013, 02:17 PM | #1919 |
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You do realize the 49ers didn't squander the #34th overall pick and a conditional 3rd/2nd rounder the next year, for the privelege?
That is my point. Your boys threw away important draft picks for what will prove to be a temporary place holder. |
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05-14-2013, 02:18 PM | #1920 |
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Possibly, but he did say that if Reid thinks Alice is the long term solution he is a dumbass so that earned him some points with me even though I think I contributed to his redness when he first showed up.
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