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**BigRedChief** · 04:18 PM

2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Central Division title. Won 100 games. Lost in the NLDS.
Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
67 post season wins since 2004. 24+ wins more than any other team.

SI article on our off season, Gives us a "A". ??:
http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/02/12/win...ouis-cardinals

2015 III thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=295296
2015 II thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293412
2015 I thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289085

Brent Williams · 08-15-2016, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Lance Lynn making a rehab start in Palm Beach tonight.

Interdasting.

I don't want him in the 'pen; Matheny will barbecue his ass.

Lynn went 1 2/3 innings with one hit and 2 k's. Got hit on the back of the leg and was taken out for precautionary reasons. He did pitch to the next batter after being hit though.

bdj23 · 08-16-2016, 06:31 PM

Jfc Garcia.

**BigRedChief** · 08-16-2016, 09:19 PM

I guess Holliday is done for the year. Do they even bring him back next year?

**BigRedChief** · 08-16-2016, 09:20 PM

Reyes looked damn good again tonight. He should be closing in October.

Jewish Rabbi · 08-17-2016, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I guess Holliday is done for the year. Do they even bring him back next year?

He had surgery so he could be back this year. And if he wants to come back, you take him back IMO.

ChiefsCountry · 08-17-2016, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I guess Holliday is done for the year. Do they even bring him back next year?

If the Cardinals were an AL team were you could get Holliday DH time, it would be a no brainer. But I would pay the million dollar buyout and spend that 16 million else where.

DJ's left nut · 08-17-2016, 09:25 AM

Go. Get. Yasiel. Puig.

In 31 AAA PAs he has 3 HRs, 11 RBI, a 4-1 BB/K ratio and a .481/.548/.926 triple slash. No, his OPS is not .926, that's his slug. His OPS is 1.474.

He'd be the most talented player we have and he's actually younger than Aledmys Diaz. You want a new core to compete with Chicago, you're going to have to take some risks. Getting Puig in here with Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter to keep him in line and you could potentially transition into a new era of Cardinal baseball with Puig, Diaz, Piscotty, Martinez, Reyes and Weaver leading the charge.

That's a hell of a foundation to build around.

ChiefsCountry · 08-17-2016, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Go. Get. Yasiel. Puig.

In 31 AAA PAs he has 3 HRs, 11 RBI, a 4-1 BB/K ratio and a .481/.548/.926 triple slash. No, his OPS is not .926, that's his slug. His OPS is 1.474.

He'd be the most talented player we have and he's actually younger than Aledmys Diaz. You want a new core to compete with Chicago, you're going to have to take some risks. Getting Puig in here with Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter to keep him in line and you could potentially transition into a new era of Cardinal baseball with Puig, Diaz, Piscotty, Martinez, Reyes and Weaver leading the charge.

That's a hell of a foundation to build around.

Damn it I want Puig for the Royals. Keep your paws off him.

Swanman · 08-17-2016, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Go. Get. Yasiel. Puig.

In 31 AAA PAs he has 3 HRs, 11 RBI, a 4-1 BB/K ratio and a .481/.548/.926 triple slash. No, his OPS is not .926, that's his slug. His OPS is 1.474.

He'd be the most talented player we have and he's actually younger than Aledmys Diaz. You want a new core to compete with Chicago, you're going to have to take some risks. Getting Puig in here with Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter to keep him in line and you could potentially transition into a new era of Cardinal baseball with Puig, Diaz, Piscotty, Martinez, Reyes and Weaver leading the charge.

That's a hell of a foundation to build around.

It's a no-brainer unless the price is steep, and I bet it won't be. Put him in a new situation with vets that can keep him in line and who knows. It's better than what we have and if he comes cheap, it's a risk definitely worth taking. Look what we give up for brokedicks from Cleveland.

Rams Fan · 08-17-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

If the Cardinals were an AL team were you could get Holliday DH time, it would be a no brainer. But I would pay the million dollar buyout and spend that 16 million else where.

What OF FAs would be available?

Because, if they don't pick up Holliday's option and Moss leaves via FA, the OF would have these players under contract currently-Grichuk, Piscotty, Pham, and I guess Wong(if you want to count him as an OFer).

I don't think any in the group is consistent enough to be a starter aside from Piscotty. Pham's injury prone, Grichuk doesn't doesn't walk nearly enough and strikeouts, and Wong is Wong(though I do think he'll rebound a bit next season).

That seems like a dreadful OF over the course of a 162 game season.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-17-2016, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Go. Get. Yasiel. Puig.

In 31 AAA PAs he has 3 HRs, 11 RBI, a 4-1 BB/K ratio and a .481/.548/.926 triple slash. No, his OPS is not .926, that's his slug. His OPS is 1.474.

He'd be the most talented player we have and he's actually younger than Aledmys Diaz. You want a new core to compete with Chicago, you're going to have to take some risks. Getting Puig in here with Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter to keep him in line and you could potentially transition into a new era of Cardinal baseball with Puig, Diaz, Piscotty, Martinez, Reyes and Weaver leading the charge.

That's a hell of a foundation to build around.

Oh heeeeeeellll naw. No....just noooooooooo

DJ's left nut · 08-17-2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

It's a no-brainer unless the price is steep, and I bet it won't be. Put him in a new situation with vets that can keep him in line and who knows. It's better than what we have and if he comes cheap, it's a risk definitely worth taking. Look what we give up for brokedicks from Cleveland.

Grichuk, DeJong, Flaherty, Woodford, Marco, Gomber

Choose any two and I'm down. If you need three, let me know which three and we'll talk.

The Dodgers would almost certainly prefer to avoid dealing him to the Cardinals so we'll have to overpay respective to the market if we really want him.

I'd do it anyway.

ChiefsCountry · 08-17-2016, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

What OF FAs would be available?

Because, if they don't pick up Holliday's option and Moss leaves via FA, the OF would have these players under contract currently-Grichuk, Piscotty, Pham, and I guess Wong(if you want to count him as an OFer).

I don't think any in the group is consistent enough to be a starter aside from Piscotty. Pham's injury prone, Grichuk doesn't doesn't walk nearly enough and strikeouts, and Wong is Wong(though I do think he'll rebound a bit next season).

That seems like a dreadful OF over the course of a 162 game season.

DJ's fantasy for Puig makes sense, or for the guy that replaced Puig - Josh Reddick.

Piscotty in left, Grichuk/Pham platoon in center, Reddick in right.

O.city · 08-17-2016, 11:17 AM

Piscotty needs to replace Holliday in left and in the 3 hole.

I like Reddick though, I think Puig would be nice.

DJ's left nut · 08-17-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

DJ's fantasy for Puig makes sense, or for the guy that replaced Puig - Josh Reddick.

Piscotty in left, Grichuk/Pham platoon in center, Reddick in right.

I see what you're doing here.

It will not work, sir.

I'm not taking my eyes off the prize. You may keep your soon to be 30 year old, defensively limited corner OFer who can't get on base and has never managed an OPS over .784 (career OPS of .754).

Reddick is a seriously poor man's Puig and as a FA, he'll actually cost more over the coming years than Puig would. Not even a little bit interested.

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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2649099	Go. Get. Yasiel. Puig. In 31 AAA PAs he has 3 HRs, 11 RBI, a 4-1 BB/K ratio and a .481/.548/.926 triple slash. No, his OPS is not .926, that's his slug. His OPS is 1.474. He'd be the most talented player we have and he's actually younger than Aledmys Diaz. You want a new core to compete with Chicago, you're going to have to take some risks. Getting Puig in here with Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter to keep him in line and you could potentially transition into a new era of Cardinal baseball with Puig, Diaz, Piscotty, Martinez, Reyes and Weaver leading the charge. That's a hell of a foundation to build around. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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