Top 10 Offense?

[Mr. Arrowhead]

On NFL Live, they had a debate on whether the Chiefs can be a Top 10 offense, and surprisingly they both thought that we would be in the top 10 in offense. Kind of crazy

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

http://chiefconcerns.com/bombs-away-...the-deep-ball/

Helped with the article. Thanks brahs.

fluffly piece is fluffy.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

fluffly piece is fluffy.

lol. I write for Chief Concerns... We're a happy homer bunch.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

lol. I write for Chief Concerns... We're a happy homer bunch.

God bless you...

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

lol. I write for Chief Concerns... We're a happy homer bunch.

Donkey homerism is the only sanctioned homerism on ChiefsPlanet.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by BossChief

A scary fact of the last two years of Alex Smith...He took 68 sacks over that time period.

cause he holds onto the ball too long and will take the sack rather than throwing into a tight window for a potential interception.

the anti-gun slinger

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

he had a friggen cannon compared to Captain check-down....

So...

CCD wasn't the only qb in the league
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[BossChief]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

cause he holds onto the ball too long and will take the sack rather than throwing into a tight window for a potential interception.

the anti-gun slinger

No question you are right...even Andy Reid acknowledges that by "prodding him to be more agressive"

If he can somehow get Alex to maintain his effectiveness in the short and intermediate zones while helping him become more confident in his ability to stretch the field, this offense has a chance to be really ****ing good.

Trouble with that is, it's a sink or swim deal.

Alex is gonna step up into the next class of QBs in this league, or be replaced...I don't believe for a second that Andy traded that much only to continue to allow Alex to play extremely limited football.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

So...

CCD wasn't the only qb in the league
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McNabb had a strong arm, and if you google that you will find it to be true that he had a strong arm. Contrast that with Alex Smith who is known for his weak arm and my point stands. Who is CCD?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

McNabb had a strong arm, and if you google that you will find it to be true that he had a strong arm. Contrast that with Alex Smith who is known for his weak arm and my point stands. Who is CCD?

You told him who. Reading comprehension much. Go back and re-read the post.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....&postcount=186

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

McNabb had a strong arm, and if you google that you will find it to be true that he had a strong arm. Contrast that with Alex Smith who is known for his weak arm and my point stands. Who is CCD?

I don't need google to tell me Mcnabb had a strong arm.


Never said otherwise, just that he didn't have the "strongest arm in the league" which is exactly what you said.
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[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Not true over the last 28 games. Look it up.

I did look it up. It's still true. Using only Alex's last 28 games, his completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TDs per attempt all go down with more attempts, while his interceptions per attempt go up.

I reran my analysis using only his last 2 years (plus playoffs), but rather than using 35 passes per game, I used the number of passes Reid called each game in 2012. So, week one was 56 attempts, week 2 was 32, etc. Again, this is based on only the last 2 years. This is the absolute best of Alex Smith.

50.8 % completion rate
4084 yards
21 TDs
12 INTs

Not horrible, but really not good at all, either.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

I did look it up. It's still true. Using only Alex's last 28 games, his completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TDs per attempt all go down with more attempts, while his interceptions per attempt go up.

I reran my analysis using only his last 2 years (plus playoffs), but rather than using 35 passes per game, I used the number of passes Reid called each game in 2012. So, week one was 56 attempts, week 2 was 32, etc. Again, this is based on only the last 2 years. This is the absolute best of Alex Smith.

50.8 % completion rate
4084 yards
21 TDs
12 INTs

Not horrible, but really not good at all, either.

We are going to have to agree to disagree. Some stats are a little better... some a little worse... with different games. Several outlier games like the Giants game I mentioned to skew the stats. All-in-all, I don't see the much worse QB you refer too when passing attempts go up on paper. We will see when the games start.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Coogs

We are going to have to agree to disagree. Some stats are a little better... some a little worse... with different games. Several outlier games like the Giants game I mentioned to skew the stats. All-in-all, I don't see the much worse QB you refer too when passing attempts go up on paper. We will see when the games start.

So you'd be happy with those stats? Here are his stats considering his entire career and Reid's 2012 playcalling:

55.5%
3714 yards
20 TDs
19 INTs

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

So you'd be happy with those stats? Here are his stats considering his entire career and Reid's 2012 playcalling:

55.5%
3714 yards
20 TDs
19 INTs

SF's offensive history has for many years now suggested that any time we were forced to abandon our gameplan and throw the ball that much? We were usually in a lot of trouble and had to force things.

Take most (any) teams away from their SOP? and I imagine the results would not be ideal or pretty.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

So you'd be happy with those stats? Here are his stats considering his entire career and Reid's 2012 playcalling:

55.5%
3714 yards
20 TDs
19 INTs

I'll wait until I actually see Smith and Reid matched together. My expectations (not basing it off of his entire career) for your 4 categories would be higher, close, ballpark, lower. But again, that is JMO.