It's time we ban pitbulls

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

I'm not for banning breeds, but man do I hate those ****ing dogs. Or maybe it's just pitbull owners. Or maybe it's bud light commercials

[Dayze]

nothing wrong with Pitts at all. any animal can be turned into a viscious animal.

Got to a Pet Store (not directed to anyone here specfici etc) when they have Pitt Bull adoptions. Some of the sweetest dogs I've ever met.
They get a huge bad rap from the media.

Years ago it was the Rottweiler. Before that, Dobermans.

Investigate for yourself before jumping on board with the media hype/scare tactics.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Dayze

nothing wrong with Pitts at all. any animal can be turned into a viscious animal.

How many Dachshunds or terriers killed a small child in.....oh.....the last 200 years?

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Rausch

How many Dachshunds or terriers killed a small child in.....oh.....the last 200 years?

Dacchsunds have a vicious streak a mile wide. It's the most foul tempered dog you're ever set eyes on. It's a killer.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Rausch

How many Dachshunds or terriers killed a small child in.....oh.....the last 200 years?

Killed probably not. Bitten, probably more than is ever reported. My nieghboor's min-pin is vicious and tries to gnaw my ankle off almost every time I see him.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Dayze

nothing wrong with Pitts at all. any animal can be turned into a viscious animal.

I don't have a dog in this fight, so I decided to do a little research and see if pit bulls are more likely to be vicious than other dogs. I found this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States .



Interesting.

This obviously proves nothing regarding what breed of dog is more likely to be vicious. But it does appear that one breed of dog does most of the killing.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

This obviously proves nothing regarding what breed of dog is more likely to be vicious. But it does appear that one breed of dog does most of the killing.

No what it proves is what breed of dog is being exploited, bred and trained by the lowest rungs of humanity to be vicious.

Let's be honest here for a bit; take a bunch of small dicked jackasses and tell them that owning a pit bull will make them tough and you get bunch of jackasses breeding these dogs to be what these other small dicked jackasses want. So now we have jackasses warping and manipulating a certain breed of dog to sell to other jackasses. This is the problem, not the dog per se but what has happened to the bred over time.

Let's pretend that by some stroke all pit bulls are gone, no longer here. What's next? Do we get a stories of vicious rotties and that this breed must be banned!

[Lex Luthor]

Why are the vast majority of dog-bite fatalities caused by pit bulls?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

This is what you call prima facie evidence that pit bulls are dangerous.

The pit bull lovers refuse to acknowledge this, but the fact is that pit bulls are dangerous because they have such a powerful bite. All it takes it one second in the lifetime of the dog for a tragedy to occur.

A few years ago I had a Yorkie who was the most gentle dog in the world. One day we were playing, and the most gentle dog in the world suddenly bit me on the hand. He immediately realized what he had done, looked me in the eye with the most human look I've ever seen on a dog, and then he ran like hell. His bite didn't even break the skin. If that Yorkie had been a pit bull, I'd have pulled back a bloody stump. And instead of running away, he may very well have decided to just finish me off, because pit bulls are known to do that and have the strength to do that. If my Yorkie had tried to finish me off, I'd have picked him and thrown him against the wall.

Some animals are just too dangerous to have in a home, especially a home with children or in a neighborhood with children. I don't give a shit about the anecdotal evidence people provide about their personal pit bulls who were perfect little angels and the bestest dogs ever. 99% of them may be, but the 1% who are killers make the breed too dangerous to have as pets. It's trivially easy to find reports of children killed by the family pit bull. Invariably the parents are hysterically sobbing "But he was the most gentle animal ever! He never bit anyone ever ever before!"

Banning pit bulls is nothing like banning guns. An unattended gun won't escape from its pen or jump a fence and kill people. Pit Bulls can and do.

Hog Farmer nailed it when he said "Guns don't kill people. Pit bulls do.".

[KC native]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Why are the vast majority of dog-bite fatalities caused by pit bulls?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

This is what you call prima facie evidence that pit bulls are dangerous.

The pit bull lovers refuse to acknowledge this, but the fact is that pit bulls are dangerous because they have such a powerful bite. All it takes it one second in the lifetime of the dog for a tragedy to occur.

A few years ago I had a Yorkie who was the most gentle dog in the world. One day we were playing, and the most gentle dog in the world suddenly bit me on the hand. He immediately realized what he had done, looked me in the eye with the most human look I've ever seen on a dog, and then he ran like hell. His bite didn't even break the skin. If that Yorkie had been a pit bull, I'd have pulled back a bloody stump. And instead of running away, he may very well have decided to just finish me off, because pit bulls are known to do that and have the strength to do that. If my Yorkie had tried to finish me off, I'd have picked him and thrown him against the wall.

Some animals are just too dangerous to have in a home, especially a home with children or in a neighborhood with children. I don't give a shit about the anecdotal evidence people provide about their personal pit bulls who were perfect little angels and the bestest dogs ever. 99% of them may be, but the 1% who are killers make the breed too dangerous to have as pets. It's trivially easy to find reports of children killed by the family pit bull. Invariably the parents are hysterically sobbing "But he was the most gentle animal ever! He never bit anyone ever ever before!"

Banning pit bulls is nothing like banning guns. An unattended gun won't escape from its pen or jump a fence and kill people. Pit Bulls can and do.

Hog Farmer nailed it when he said "Guns don't kill people. Pit bulls do.".

No that's what you call bullshit. No other breed is misidentified more. Anything that looks even remotely similar to a pit is called a pit. Sometimes the dogs don't even look lit pits get called pits when reporters show up. Several people have put together slideshows where you pick the pit bull out. Google them and see how you do.

Aside from that Pits don't have mutant freakishly powerful jaws. Your hyperbole is ridiculous. Rotties bite just as hard as pits yet you aren't suggesting they should be banned.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by KC native

No that's what you call bullshit. No other breed is misidentified more. Anything that looks even remotely similar to a pit is called a pit. Sometimes the dogs don't even look lit pits get called pits when reporters show up. Several people have put together slideshows where you pick the pit bull out. Google them and see how you do.

Aside from that Pits don't have mutant freakishly powerful jaws. Your hyperbole is ridiculous. Rotties bite just as hard as pits yet you aren't suggesting they should be banned.

From a study of dog attacks over the 30 year period from 1982 to 2012:

There is a persistent allegation by pit bull terrier advocates that pit bulls are overrepresented among reported dog attack deaths and maimings because of misidentifications or because “pit bull” is, according to them, a generic term covering several similar types of dog. However, the frequency of pit bull attacks among these worst-in-10,000 cases is so disproportionate that even if half of the attacks in the pit bull category were misattributed, or even if the pit bull category was split three ways, attacks by pit bulls and their closest relatives would still outnumber attacks by any other breed.

There is also a persistent allegation by pit bull terrier advocates that the use of media accounts as a data source is somehow suspect. Reality is that media coverage incorporates information from police reports, animal control reports, witness accounts, victim accounts in many instances, and hospital reports. Media coverage is, in short, multi-sourced, unlike reports from any single source.

http://mainphrame.com/media/Dog_atta..._June_2012.pdf

Pit Bulls make up 3.3% of the dog population. Between 60% and 70% of dog bite fatalities are caused by Pit Bulls. The statistics speak for themselves.

However, your point about Rotweillers is valid. From the same 30-year study:

Any law strong enough and directed enough to prevent the majority of lifethreatening dog attacks must discriminate heavily against pit bulls, Rottweilers, wolf hybrids, and perhaps Akitas and chows, who are not common breeds but do seem to be involved in disproportionate numbers of life-threatening attacks.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Why are the vast majority of dog-bite fatalities caused by pit bulls?


This is what you call prima facie evidence that pit bulls are dangerous.

The pit bull lovers refuse to acknowledge this, but the fact is that pit bulls are dangerous because they have such a powerful bite. All it takes it one second in the lifetime of the dog for a tragedy to occur.

A few years ago I had a Yorkie who was the most gentle dog in the world. One day we were playing, and the most gentle dog in the world suddenly bit me on the hand. He immediately realized what he had done, looked me in the eye with the most human look I've ever seen on a dog, and then he ran like hell. His bite didn't even break the skin. If that Yorkie had been a pit bull, I'd have pulled back a bloody stump. And instead of running away, he may very well have decided to just finish me off, because pit bulls are known to do that and have the strength to do that. If my Yorkie had tried to finish me off, I'd have picked him and thrown him against the wall.

Some animals are just too dangerous to have in a home, especially a home with children or in a neighborhood with children. I don't give a shit about the anecdotal evidence people provide about their personal pit bulls who were perfect little angels and the bestest dogs ever. 99% of them may be, but the 1% who are killers make the breed too dangerous to have as pets. It's trivially easy to find reports of children killed by the family pit bull. Invariably the parents are hysterically sobbing "But he was the most gentle animal ever! He never bit anyone ever ever before!"

Banning pit bulls is nothing like banning guns. An unattended gun won't escape from its pen or jump a fence and kill people. Pit Bulls can and do.

Hog Farmer nailed it when he said "Guns don't kill people. Pit bulls do.".

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

here's a misidentification test.

[candyman]

Originally Posted by KC native

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

here's a misidentification test.

Im a pit lover, but its pretty obvious they picked the smallest, skinniest pit they could find for that. It looks more like a Jack Russel. Needless to say I failed.

Whoever said pits are dumb dogs is dead wrong. Pits are one of the smartest, and most loyal breeds in the world.

[HC_Chief]

Goddamn assault dogs...

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Goddamn assault dogs...

Remember, if they're owned by the government, they're personal defense dogs.

[Iowanian]

Now Dammit.

It wasn't that long ago I could have made 1 of the posts I've made in this thread and picked a good brawl for the entire weekend.

Let me try again.

Cats should be fed to pit bulls.