I like Herm's method better...

[kcbubb]

I would rather play with a bunch of young players and develop them than sign a bunch of old guys if we know that we are going to be bad. Most people seem to believe that the Chiefs are going to be lucky to win six games.

If that is the case, why not look for the next Brandon Carr, Mark Bradley or Mike Cox??? It's hard to find those guys if they don't get a chance to play.

Why are we wasting this valuable playing time on players like Zach Thomas, Mike Vrabel, Mike Goff, and Bobby Engram??? I am sure that they will contribute and play well for the Chiefs at times.

If we were a team that were close to making a playoff run, I would welcome the addition of the older players, but the Chiefs are still developing their roster especially with the change to the 3-4.

If we are going to be bad, I would really rather see Brian Johnston play rather than Vrabel. And I would rather see Quinten Lawrence play rather than Engram.

Or are you one that believes that these older players provide valuable leadership???

[BarrySPAMAID]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

My opinion of Haley has been exactly the opposite. I was kinda optimistic at first.

Now after seeing the following...

Pioli tap at his watch telling Haley to speed it up at a presser

and how he handled Waters who plays one of our weakest positions

and how he didn't give an accurate answer of where his first round pick is going to play when he said he would play on the open side

and after signing a bunch of old players

I'm beginning to think that Haley is more of yes man to Pioli.

I never heard anything about Pioli tapping his watch. Do you have a link? And really does that matter?

Brian Waters will be at Mini camp next week, I'm sure Haley, and Waters will be whistleing the same tune by then.

As far as signing a "bunch of old players" If you call Vrabel, Thomas, Engram, Goff, and Beisel "a bunch of old players" , your just losing me on that one.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You're really worried about how he treated an OG?

My thoughts exactly, and he did kinda show up uninvited.

[Just Passin' By]

From Haley's Q&A on 6/1:

OTA #5

Q: The linebacker position has changed quite a bit this spring. How do you see that coming along?

TODD HALEY: “I think I’m generally encouraged by the linebackers and the progress they’re making. LB Zach Thomas coming into the picture has helped give them some direction all the time. So, I would say generally I’m encouraged. They’re getting in shape. They’re getting stronger. When you watch them out there, I think we’ve got a chance to get something out of them.”

.......

Q: “What kind of leadership does LB Zach Thomas provide to the other linebackers and other guys on the team?”

HALEY: “Well, Zach is not an overly-vocal guy, so his leadership is more by example. I think there’s a great respect for a player that has done what he’s done over the course of his career, especially being what I pointed out to the team is that he wasn’t expected to do what he’s done and have the career he’s had to this point. So, he’s done it for a reason and that’s by hard work. It’s pretty much like clockwork, when I’m in there on the treadmill at 6:50 a.m. or so, I know Zach is rolling through at right around there every day. I think he shows these guys, they’re smart enough to look at him and say, ‘This guy made it. Let me watch what he’s doing.’ And then they see what he’s doing and it’s just consistency. He’s the same guy every day. There’s not a lot of up-and-down or yo-yo with Zach. You’re getting the same guy every day and if we can get everybody preparing and being the same guy every day, being that that’s a hard-working guy that’s doing the things necessary to get himself ready, we’ll have a chance.”

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/06...odd_haley__61/

That's why you bring in the veterans. When Vrabel reports to the mandatory camp, they'll get the vocal sort of veteran.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

My opinion of Haley has been exactly the opposite. I was kinda optimistic at first.

Now after seeing the following...

Pioli tap at his watch telling Haley to speed it up at a presser
HOW do you know that the time wasnt just up?

and how he handled Waters who plays one of our weakest positions

maybe Waters should be more respectful himself

and how he didn't give an accurate answer of where his first round pick is going to play when he said he would play on the open side

maybe they hadnt decided that (he WAS an offensive coach by the way)

and after signing a bunch of old players
team needed veteran leadership

I'm beginning to think that Haley is more of yes man to Pioli.

most headcoaches are

my take

[Chaunceythe3rd]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Jeez, next you'll be saying Cassel is a mediocre QB.

Nope, Matt excelled when given his chance. Only time will tell with Pioli, Haley and Pendergast in a bottom-dwelling franchise. Pioli had much more support and a much better coach in NE. That's all.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Chaunceythe3rd

Nope, Matt excelled when given his chance. Only time will tell with Pioli, Haley and Pendergast in a bottom-dwelling franchise. Pioli had much more support and a much better coach in NE. That's all.

Chauncey, you are a douche.

[BarrySPAMAID]

Originally Posted by Chaunceythe3rd

Nope, Matt excelled when given his chance. Only time will tell with Pioli, Haley and Pendergast in a bottom-dwelling franchise. Pioli had much more support and a much better coach in NE. That's all.

What a crock of SHIT. The sky is falling, and I dont know who's gonna change my diaper!!!

YOUR A ****ING CHIEF, cmon..

Carry on

[bdeg]

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I agree with Chauncey. I think Pioli and Haley will be successful, but right now they haven't proven they can do it on their own.