Science is so racist

[Silock]

http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archiv...ck_hole_a.html

A special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre this afternoon.

County commissioners were discussing problems with the central collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.

Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that central collections "has become a black hole" because paperwork reportedly has become lost in the office.

Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a loud "Excuse me!" He then corrected his colleague, saying the office has become a "white hole."

That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.

Mayfield shot back that it was a figure of speech and a science term.

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by Donger

I really hope that I never have to interview with a black guy. I'd have no fucking clue what to do.

Learn ebonics for starters.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by bogey

Do you honestly feel in your heart of hearts that 95% of white employers are possibly racist?

Read #166

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by Inspector

I work for one of largest corporations on planet Earth. Our executive ranks are full of folks from all ethnic backgrounds. My boss is a minority. The baloney about the majority of executives being a particular race is just that - baloney. Not in my company.

Years ago I worked for a company that had a very good promotion opportunity that I was in line for. I had the experience and skills. I was told I could not have the job due to affirmative actions (regardless of the fact that I am a minority). And this was told to my face. I would not get a promotion because of my (perceived) race.

Hiring or not hiring based on race is wrong and 2 wrongs don't make a right. Ever.

It's difficult to read about the extra steps some people say they must take to get employment when my experiences over the past 30 years is so opposite of what's being reported here.

Everyone is a culmination of their own life's experiences. Mine tell me that AA is pure and simple racism that some will try to create a justification for. For us living in the real world, that simply aint gonna fly.

Actually, I'm glad you're in here... I actually envy you but do have some things to negate.

You bounced back just fine (that's why I'm envious). But the chances of that person that didn't get that opp may not have bounced back as well because of the limit of opportunities because of race.

Just because your corp is diverse doesn't mean that they all are. Especially true for a WORLD corp. We're far behind the world when it comes to race relations.

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Well Dane... AA isn't intended for you... It's the other 95% of possible (racist) employers.

So how does one assuming that one is a racist, even though it isn't proven that they are helping the situation.

You have the equipment to be a rapist, but are you.

Women have the equipment to become prostitutes, but are all of them.


I will give anyone a chance, but if they screw it up it becomes a problem.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

So how does one assuming that one is a racist, even though it isn't proven that they are helping the situation.

You have the equipment to be a rapist, but are you.

Women have the equipment to become prostitutes, but are all of them.


I will give anyone a chance, but if they screw it up that is there problem.

bk: You're taking this personal. I'm just telling you the way a minority sees white America. We're immediately skeptical until we know more about you. I guess you're stereotyped or prejudged as being racist because of our history's past.

Is that a bad assumption just because YOU aren't?

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by Inspector

...Everyone is a culmination of their own life's experiences. Mine tell me that AA is pure and simple racism that some will try to create a justification for. For us living in the real world, that simply aint gonna fly.

A lot of what people have to overcome is internal, not external. People can maintain thier individuality and still be successful, as long as they make up their mind they want to do so.

[bogey]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Read #166

How is that different from someone assuming black people are possibly unable to do the job just because they're black?

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by wutamess

bk: You're taking this personal. I'm just telling you the way a minority sees white America. We're immediately skeptical until we know more about you. I guess you're stereotyped or prejudged as being racist because of our history's past.

Is that a bad assumption just because YOU aren't?

I honestly am not taking it personally.

Skepticism isn't a bad thing if it is replaced, but I would agree that sometimes it is replaced, but with bad instead of good.

But that is exactly the problem with stereotypes, They at one time were based in truth and then take a long time to be reveresed or whittled down.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by wutamess

bk: You're taking this personal. I'm just telling you the way a minority sees white America. We're immediately skeptical until we know more about you. I guess you're stereotyped or prejudged as being racist because of our history's past.

Is that a bad assumption just because YOU aren't?

No offense, Man, but that's a pretty big leap (All Whites = Racist until proven otherwise).

I'm 3rd Generation Italian-American. My great grandfather came from Sicily to America (twice, actually) in the early 1900's. As you're probably aware, Italians were treated poorly and looked at as second class citizens for decades. But my family in particular had no associations with America's past - no slave owners, no Civil War, no nothing. As a family, we weren't raised to dislike (let alone hate) anyone of different ethnicity (though in all honesty, there had been a dislike of the Greeks among the older Italians).

Basically, my point is that while you may be justified in thinking that every white man is a racist because of America's past, you also may be unfairly categorizing a large portion of people who don't have a racist thought and have never had racists thoughts.

One a side note, when my parents were last in town, I took my Pop to see a Dodgers game. They just happened to be playing the Cubs. It was very nice to see two MLB ballclubs managed by Italian-Americans (Torre & Pinella). That's certainly something you wouldn't have seen 70 years ago. And while that may not have much significance to you, it's nice to see that things have changed.

[Inspector]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Actually, I'm glad you're in here... I actually envy you but do have some things to negate.

You bounced back just fine (that's why I'm envious). But the chances of that person that didn't get that opp may not have bounced back as well because of the limit of opportunities because of race.

Just because your corp is diverse doesn't mean that they all are. Especially true for a WORLD corp. We're far behind the world when it comes to race relations.

Just so I'm not misinterpreted......I was turned down for a promotion that I should have received because my employer had to hire someone off the street who was black. I was told to train them. I was discriminated against because my employer did not think I was a minority. Discrimination is never the right thing to do regardless of skin color.

I have never made an issue about my ethnic background. I've never let it mean anything. (Besides, it was just too big a hassle for my particular ethnic background anyway)

When one of my kids was about 4-5 years old he became aware that some people made judgements based on anothers skin color. So one day he asks "Dad, are black people bad?" I held up a yellow crayon and a green crayon and I asked him which one was the better color. He said "Neither, they're just different".

Kids can sometimes figure it our a lot better than grown ups.

[Donger]

The most racist people? Old, Asian women. Holy sh*t.

[Beerfund]

" A man can't earn a decent wage in this town? Want me to shine your shoes? Want me to smile at you? Cause you definatly won't let me deal the cards, might as well call it white jack"

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It was very nice to see two MLB ballclubs managed by Italian-Americans (Torre & Pinella).

Heh, FYI: Piniella is of Spanish descent.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Should I get rid of my Blackberry?

no, i'd keep it. I love mine to

[seclark]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It was very nice to see two MLB ballclubs managed by Italian-Americans (Torre & Pinella). That's certainly something you wouldn't have seen 70 years ago. And while that may not have much significance to you, it's nice to see that things have changed.

1963 player/coach