LT Eugene Monroe in round 1? Pioli-Haley-Groh-Albert-Monroe

[T-post Tom]

Holy six degrees of separation Batman. So Charlie Casserly thinks the Chiefs are going with E. Monroe out of Virgina. I know some of you despise that idea, but I'm just repeating what he said. His theory on why Monroe makes sense:

1) Monroe has value at #3. Stud player. (Awesome Pro Day & Combine.)
2) Continuity as Albert/Monroe played together at UVA.
3) Albert/Monroe = bookends to to protect Cassel (& big $$ investment).
4) Pioli, Haley & Groh (HC at Virgina) all coached at Jets together. Groh loves Monroe. Pioli/Haley respect Groh's opinion & will listen.
5) Chiefs might be able to trade down a position or so and still get Monroe while picking up an extra pick(s).

My apologies in advance if this is a repost.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Go **** yourself

Come on. That's it? I'm embarrassed for you at this point. I thought someone of your internet message board stature had better than that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

There have been DEEPER classes this decade. As you LOVE to say, "Do your own research."

If you're going to dispute the claim, back it up, Mother****er.

Otherwise, **** off.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If you're going to dispute the claim, back it up, Mother****er.

Nah, I love watching you squirm in your own pisspool.

"Deepest OL draft in history."

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Otherwise, **** off.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

Nah, I love watching you squirm in your own pisspool.

"Deepest OL draft in history."

Oh, I get it now.

You're a pussy.

Gotcha.

[CupidStunt]

****! *** *****!!!11!!

Come on, Dana. Keep having your aneurysm. It's fun.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

****! *** *****!!!11!!

Come on, Dana. Keep having your aneurysm. It's fun.

Apparently, you have a much higher opinion of yourself than I do.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by SBK

First you have the LT at all cost folks. They cannot be swayed. Then there's Curry's 12 disciples. They cannot be swayed.

Then there's the folks that tell you no QB in this draft is worth the #3 pick. AND they hope that one of them is available at 3 so some team will give up the farm to get em. Brilliant! Not worth the pick, hopefully someone will spend a fortune and give it to us to have em.

I think Mecca is right in saying fans here are scared of a QB. Even before we traded for Cassel you would get 1,000,000 arguments against drafting one, none of which were valid or logical.

If you remember, this place was almost universally against trading for Cassel, but as soon as the trade was announced, people completely flip-flopped.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I thought I'd never see it again. A n00b whose not a completely dumb sonofabitch.

Except for the part where he says we should take no fewer than 5 defensive players in this draft when it's relatively weak defensive draft and deep in O-Line, and next year's draft is deep defensively.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by aturnis

This is the most reeruned argument I've heard yet. I'm only playing devils advocate here, but you are not "essentially spending a top 5 pick on a RT". You are spending the #3 on a LT and a #15 on a RT. Stop saying this you ****ing clones.

No, it is essentially using the #3 pick for a RT.

Albert is playing LT, and he played it at a high level.

You draft a LT at #3, and move Albert to RT, what position did you actually fill with that pick.

You didn't need a LT, but you did need a RT, so you drafted a LT so that you can fill the hole at RT.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by aturnis

This post is full of untruthiness. Albert is under contract until 2012, so not quite 5 years out yet, but certainly not 2 or 3 as you imply. Second Albert wasn't even the 2nd best rookie LT. Third, if he did leave early, we would certainly get something for him.

Yeah, Jake Long went to a pro bowl.

Never mind that Albert didn't get help nearly as much in pass protection as Jake Long.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by philfree

If Stafford slips to #3 I'd take him.


PhilFree

What I want to knwo is where were all of these Stafford supporters during the season?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by billay

In College Monroe was a better LT than Albert. 2 stud tackles for a 14.5 million dollar QB would be good. Better then drafting Orakapo.

No he wasn't.

In college, Monroe wasn't as athletically gifted and versatile as Albert, so Al Groh was forced to move Albert to guard.

In the NFL, where the QB is the most important position on the field, you need your most athletically gifted lineman at LT.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

zombie ideas won't die

imagine spending two consecutive top 5 picks on LTs....has any franchise ever been that ****ing stupid, or had a fanbase so ****ing stupid that they thought it was a great idea?

I think this recent post from across the hall might tie in to this somehow:

Our first Mock Draft

We'll be publishing the first of our three Mock Drafts in The Kansas City Star on Sunday.

We thought we'd give you a sneak peek today.

Unlike previous years, this is a hard one to handicap for a couple of reasons. One, there are no consensus, sure things at the top of the draft.

Secondly, there are new decision-makers at the top of the teams with the first three picks, so we don't have a track record on what they might do other than looking at how their previous clubs operated.

For instance, we could always count on Detroit's Matt Millen picking a wide receiver. Now, we're not sure what the Lions will do with the first pick.

So without further adieu, we'll let you in on the Top 10 picks of our first Mock Draft. I'm sure you're probably most interested in the third pick.

The entire verson will be in Sunday's paper and on our web page.

1 Detroit Lions … QB Matthew Stafford, Georgia

Stafford, a true junior, does not have to play right away. He can play behind Daunte Culpepper for a year just as Culpepper sat out his rookie season as an understudy at Minnsota.

2 St. Louis Rams … OT Eugene Monroe, Virginia

The Rams need to replace Orlando Pace at left tackle. They're going to try to move Alex Barron from the right side, but he was no great shakes there, either, and he's in the last year of his contract.

3 Kansas City Chiefs … OT Jason Smith, Baylor

I know, I know. LB Aaron Curry of Wake Forest is the popular choice here, and goodness knows the Chiefs need help at linebacker _ or anywhere on the front seven. And he'll be a solid player who would have a Donnie Edwards-like career. Nothing wrong with that.

But Curry, for all his ability, is not a pass rusher, and with the third pick, a linebacker has to be the second coming of Derrick Thomas. Especially when drafted by a team that had an NFL-record low 10 sacks a year ago.

Unfortunately, there is no pass rusher on the board worthy of that third pick. I fully expect the Chiefs to trade down a few spots, hoping there is a team coveting a player with that choice.

Then, the Chiefs can take a pass rusher with a later pick in the first round, and with a much-needed second-round pick acquired in the trade, choose an offensive tackle or one of the many linebackers who will be available.

But for this exercise _ I don't want to be making trades in a mock draft _ we'll match the best player with a glaring need.

Scott Pioli wants to build with big, fast and smart players. Smith, a converted tight end, is all three, and together with Branden Albert, can give the Chiefs bookend tackles for the next 10 years.

4 Seattle Seahawks … LB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest

He’s an ideal replacement for the traded Julian Peterson.

5 Cleveland Browns … WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech

Butter-fingered Braylon Edwards has one year left on his contract; Donte Stallworth faces legal issues stemming from his DUI wreck that killed a man.

6 Cincinnati Bengals … OT Andre Smith, Alabama

The Bengals need to find an heir to veteran left tackle Levi Jones has missed 18 games in the lat three years.

7 Oakland Raiders … WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri

Al Davis loves collecting players with speed and play-making ability. Don't let Maclin's 40 time at the Combine fool you. He'll look good in Raiders' black.

8 Jacksonville Jaguars … DT B.J. Raji, Boston College
Raji is an ideal fit for the kind of defensive front Jacksonville plays. And he has the mean temperament coach Jack Del Rio loves.

9 Green Bay Packers …. OT Michael Oher, Ole Miss

Packers need to find protection for Aaron Rodgers, who was sacked 34 times last year.

10 San Francisco 49ers … DE Aaron Maybin, Penn State

Big 10 sack leader is one of the fastest risers on the draft board.

We'll offer an updated Mock Draft next week and put the finishing touches on our final version on Draft Day.
http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/767

[philfree]

Originally Posted by milkman

What I want to knwo is where were all of these Stafford supporters during the season?

I've supported Stafford all along but then we got Cassel. I have discussed Curry way to much. We all have but that doesn't mean I was locked in on him as our only option. That's what sucks about Chiefs Planet. At this point if a person puts forth an idea they're just asking to be lamb basted or called names. And if you mention an idea people immediately think that's what you want to do in the draft. For example before we acquired Cassel I posted that if not Curry then who do we draft at #3? I brought up E. Brown and the next post after mine was Hamas and I bet you can guess what his reply was. "****ing idiot". There was a time I would tell people about Chiefs Planet and that they should visit. But now I wouldn't send anybody to the Planet because it's kind of a disgrace the way poeple treat others here.


PhilFree

[RustShack]

So its easier to play LT than OG?