Chiefs Why Manning ruled out KC... - Page 13

**The Bad Guy** · 03-20-2012, 09:29 AM

Apparently, teams were pre-qualified by Manning prior to any visits. When Condon was contacted by the 12 teams, he told them that the contract Manning was starting at was 5 for 90 and going from there.

Teams either had to say in or out at that point.

From there, Manning narrowed his selections.

I was told this from someone yesterday, and then today on Twitter, a great guy to follow, Andrew Brandt commented on it as well. I was leery about what I was told, but this guy confirmed it.

The Chiefs never got past the pre-qualified stage.

Seattle did, but when Manning narrowed his choices, the roster had no appeal.

Just thought I'd post this since we had a lot of discussions about why the Chiefs never got a face to face.

Direckshun · 03-20-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

FYI, the last time we played Peyton, we knocked his ass around. He averaged 5.5 yards per attempt, had 0 TD passes, and threw 18 incompletions.

Had it not been for Matt Cassel being a piece of shit, we would have beaten Peyton in his own house.

Even Cassel being a piece of shit... we still win if Bowe hangs on to the ball.

And guess what... we're a LOT better now.

vailpass · 03-20-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

vailpass

I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to ****in' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

**The Bad Guy** · 03-20-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

No offense intended. Like any news story, once there is a second, creditable source to corroborate then it can be viewed as potentially legitimate.

Forgive me if all I see to this point is a Chiefs fan trying to make himself feel better for being left out of a deal he wanted.

Andrew Brant said the same thing today on Twitter. He's connected to tons of people in the league.

I've said before I'd be jumping up and down if the Chiefs got Manning. I have no sour grapes about this at all. It makes sense that Manning visited teams that were willing to meet his compensation demands.

If I'm in demand in a field, and I put my resume out there and people contact me that are offering far less than I want, why would I go visit them?

bowener · 03-20-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

That is the price you pay for greatness. The best free agent to hit the market in NFL history isn't gonna come cheap. I believe the Chiefs were serious about landing Manning and he just didn't feel comfortable with the people working for the Chiefs.

Honestly, Reggie White may have been the best FA to ever hit free agency.

Saying Manning is with him coming off a missed season because of severe nerve damage in his spine is a bit of an over statement.

bowener · 03-20-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Why are you bringing up Reggie White and Deion Sanders?

Dammit! I should have read 3 more posts.
(forgot about Deion)

Mile High Mania · 03-20-2012, 12:11 PM

Who cares where he ranks among all time FA's...

If healthy, the guy should be at the top of his game and will help improve the Broncos in ways we haven't seen in years. They still have a few pieces to add.

vailpass · 03-20-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Andrew Brant said the same thing today on Twitter. He's connected to tons of people in the league.

I've said before I'd be jumping up and down if the Chiefs got Manning. I have no sour grapes about this at all. It makes sense that Manning visited teams that were willing to meet his compensation demands.

If I'm in demand in a field, and I put my resume out there and people contact me that are offering far less than I want, why would I go visit them?

Fair enough and again, please don't take offense if I wait to hear the story corroborated by a known and creditable news source.

I'm not saying your report isn't true. I'm saying that until a second source confirms that Arizona and the Bidwills were willing to sign a $90 million contract for a QB ONE YEAR after signing a $60 million contract for a QB I will find it very hard to believe.

Brock · 03-20-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to ****in' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

You're acting like a dumbass noob.

vailpass · 03-20-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

You're acting like a dumbass noob.

This is what you get for running off Skip.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-20-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

This is what you get for running off Skip.

Ha. Mental instability ran off Skip.

Quesadilla Joe · 03-20-2012, 12:18 PM

Brandt: Assessing Peyton Manning’s deal

The five-year, $96 million contract agreed to today between Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos is truly one that makes sense for both sides. It addresses the magnitude of the player that Manning is while also protecting the team with risk allocation because of Manning’s pre-existing injury. Let’s take a look:

Year One

Manning will make $18 million -- his jersey number -- regardless of injury. Simple.

Years Two and Three: The physical and the waiver

Not so simple. Manning will undergo what is termed a “postseason physical” 10 days before the start of the 2013 League Year, sometime in late February or early March. In the event Manning passes that physical, he will activate a $40 million guarantee, paid out as $20 million salaries in both 2013 and 2014.

The Broncos will have further protection with an injury waiver to Manning’s neck for these two years. In the event Manning suffers an injury that is related to his C-6/C-7 cervical spine fusion “and related pathologies,” the Broncos will be able to reduce the guarantee for the following year. For example, were Manning to suffer an injury in Week 10 of 2013 related to his neck injury, the Broncos would pay the rest of the 2013 salary, but not be on the hook for 2014.

The waiver gives the Broncos protection on one “body part” of Manning; the key body part of the transaction, his surgically repaired neck.

Years Four and Five: Annual physicals and guarantee

Manning is scheduled to make $19 million in both 2015 and 2016. The amount becomes guaranteed when Manning passes his physical prior to the start of each League Year. This is similar to the guarantee above, although on a year-to-year basis rather than the two-year guarantee of 2013-2014.

Of course, the Broncos can release Manning prior to that physical in either year and avoid any future liability.

There you have it: $96 million over five years, with guarantees throughout the contract that are triggered upon the passing of annual physical exams. And it contains a waiver on the pre-existing condition that Manning is arriving with, giving protection to the team.

My initial reaction is that Manning could have leveraged much more money if he wanted to. The Titans and Seahawks probably would have paid more and required less protection. This is a contract where the player saying, “It’s not about the money” truly means that. There are few deals in sports that are by definition good for both sides. This appears to be one.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...E2%80%99s-deal

vailpass · 03-20-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Ha. Mental instability ran off Skip.

Then how come so many of us are still here?
The day Skip's pot farm burned down was one of the funniest days here.

Okie_Apparition · 03-20-2012, 12:20 PM

Will it get X fired like it did Polian

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-20-2012, 12:21 PM

This is a contract where the player saying, “It’s not about the money” truly means that. There are few deals in sports that are by definition good for both sides. This appears to be one.

Mile High Mania · 03-20-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

This is a contract where the player saying, “It’s not about the money” truly means that. There are few deals in sports that are by definition good for both sides. This appears to be one.

So, why does it not appear to be mutually beneficial? They have outs and financial protection... if he's healthy, then I doubt they are wasting the money.

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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3858675	Brandt: Assessing Peyton Manning’s deal The five-year, $96 million contract agreed to today between Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos is truly one that makes sense for both sides. It addresses the magnitude of the player that Manning is while also protecting the team with risk allocation because of Manning’s pre-existing injury. Let’s take a look: Year One Manning will make $18 million -- his jersey number -- regardless of injury. Simple. Years Two and Three: The physical and the waiver Not so simple. Manning will undergo what is termed a “postseason physical” 10 days before the start of the 2013 League Year, sometime in late February or early March. In the event Manning passes that physical, he will activate a $40 million guarantee, paid out as $20 million salaries in both 2013 and 2014. The Broncos will have further protection with an injury waiver to Manning’s neck for these two years. In the event Manning suffers an injury that is related to his C-6/C-7 cervical spine fusion “and related pathologies,” the Broncos will be able to reduce the guarantee for the following year. For example, were Manning to suffer an injury in Week 10 of 2013 related to his neck injury, the Broncos would pay the rest of the 2013 salary, but not be on the hook for 2014. The waiver gives the Broncos protection on one “body part” of Manning; the key body part of the transaction, his surgically repaired neck. Years Four and Five: Annual physicals and guarantee Manning is scheduled to make $19 million in both 2015 and 2016. The amount becomes guaranteed when Manning passes his physical prior to the start of each League Year. This is similar to the guarantee above, although on a year-to-year basis rather than the two-year guarantee of 2013-2014. Of course, the Broncos can release Manning prior to that physical in either year and avoid any future liability. There you have it: $96 million over five years, with guarantees throughout the contract that are triggered upon the passing of annual physical exams. And it contains a waiver on the pre-existing condition that Manning is arriving with, giving protection to the team. My initial reaction is that Manning could have leveraged much more money if he wanted to. The Titans and Seahawks probably would have paid more and required less protection. This is a contract where the player saying, “It’s not about the money” truly means that. There are few deals in sports that are by definition good for both sides. This appears to be one. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...E2%80%99s-deal __________________ “(Sean) Payton feels as strongly about Bo Nix as he did Mahomes.“ - Adam Schefter
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