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Old 02-28-2023, 10:36 AM   #1
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Buffalo's window is already closing before they won anything and they don't have a Veach-like GM to effectively draft and build a roster around Josh Allen's contract.

Sucks to be them.
The window is open as long as they have an elite, healthy QB. They will need to draft better moving forward.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:01 AM   #2
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The window is open as long as they have an elite, healthy QB. They will need to draft better moving forward.
Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stats like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:03 AM   #3
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Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stays like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.
Man, you guys are way too stingy with the term "elite".
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:26 AM   #4
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Man, you guys are way too stingy with the term "elite".
I reserve Elite for guys who deserve it....you know, guys who have won their division consistently.....been in at least 4 AFCG....3 Super Bowls and winning 2 of them...2 time League MVP.....2 time Super Bowl MVP....

Elite truly means the best of the best....

Come talk to me about Allen when he has even half of that.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:37 AM   #5
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Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stats like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.
We’ll see how long Allen can stay healthy. He is elite. They have one good receiver and a bunch of JAG’s across the rest of their offensive roster. But they have a Top 3 scoring offense the last 3 seasons.

Allen is carrying a large burden on his shoulders given that they use him so much in the running game. Buffalo coach & GM should develop a more traditional run game so Allen can avoid punishment on his body.
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Old 02-28-2023, 02:24 PM   #6
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Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stats like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.
He is elite. He's not Mahomes who is ultra-elite, but he is still a Top 3-5 QB in the league.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:09 AM   #7
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Remember when Veach made moves with 23$ in cap space, then followed up the next season with a full offensive line over haul? **** its good to be a Chiefs fan right now. Watching other franchises enter a tailspin.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:49 AM   #8
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You guys don't understand how enticing it is to run him when you need 3 yards.

It takes a tremendous amount of discipline to not take the easy route over and over.

The only way I would call a designed run for Allen is if the game is on the line in the playoffs. He needs to adapt and use his movements to buy time and throw.
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Old 02-28-2023, 12:18 PM   #9
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You guys don't understand how enticing it is to run him when you need 3 yards.

It takes a tremendous amount of discipline to not take the easy route over and over.

The only way I would call a designed run for Allen is if the game is on the line in the playoffs. He needs to adapt and use his movements to buy time and throw.
Or slide/get out of bounds. He takes a lot of unnecessary punishment for a gain of a few yards.
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Old 02-28-2023, 12:23 PM   #10
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Or slide/get out of bounds. He takes a lot of unnecessary punishment for a gain of a few yards.
Allen definitely needs to get smarter about that stuff. Mahomes would try to run over people in college. I was glad to see him show a smarter approach when he got into the NFL. Great coaching from Andy’s staff.
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Allen's running ability is a huge part of what makes him a great offensive weapon, he's never going to willingly blunt that advantage.
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Allen's running ability is a huge part of what makes him a great offensive weapon, he's never going to willingly blunt that advantage.
Injury=Unwillingly blunt

It's kind of happened already.
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Allen is a beast, elite QB.

The issue is that he is in a bucket with a couple guys like that including Burrow while Mahomes is the greatest QB talent ever.
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Josh just doesn’t have the gigabytes that Mahomes, or Burrow have. He doesn’t seem to be able to compute what’s happening on the field as fast as needed sometimes. That’s when he takes off running.
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