Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 138

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

CaliforniaChief · 11-11-2013, 10:06 AM

Royals might make a play on Phil Hughes:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/...ng-phil-hughes

**Bowser** · 11-11-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Fine with me. He wasn't any good here anyways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

how does that blow? he sucks

He didn't suck. He just got pitched into the ground. He essentially didn't have an offseason last year.

Kinda sucks. I was wondering what he could do if he could get his arm rested up over the offseason.

duncan_idaho · 11-11-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Royals might make a play on Phil Hughes:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/...ng-phil-hughes

WhawhaWhat · 11-11-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Luis Mendoza is out. A Japanese team just announced an agreement to acquire him.

He's going to the Nippon Ham Fighters, which is the same team Trey Hillman used to manage.

BigCatDaddy · 11-11-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

how does that blow? he sucks

He needs to get work every 5th day to be effective. He was horrible in relief and that's not what he is suited for. I think he could be a 4th starter for some shit team like the Orioles.

Strongside · 11-11-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Royals might make a play on Phil Hughes:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/...ng-phil-hughes

This would be a good pickup. He is well-suited to pitch at the K...could be a similar thing to Santana as far as a turnaround goes.

duncan_idaho · 11-11-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

He needs to get work every 5th day to be effective. He was horrible in relief and that's not what he is suited for. I think he could be a 4th starter for some shit team like the Orioles.

Mendoza could be an OK back-end starter, but I think he got dead-arm in about June last year. Too much work over the winter.

He'd be an upgrade for a shit team like the Orioles.

WhawhaWhat · 11-11-2013, 10:50 AM

Saw on that CBS link that the Braves are moving to Cobb County in '17, which means they were in Turner Field for only 20 years before moving to a new stadium.

How long before we start hearing from the Royals about how Kauffman isn't enough to compete?

CHENZ A! · 11-11-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Saw on that CBS link that the Braves are moving to Cobb County in '17, which means they were in Turner Field for only 20 years before moving to a new stadium.

How long before we start hearing from the Royals about how Kauffman isn't enough to compete?

Hopefully today. A downtown stadium would be so much better.

Strongside · 11-11-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CHENZ A!

Hopefully today. A downtown stadium would be so much better.

As someone who lives downtown...die.

CHENZ A! · 11-11-2013, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside

As someone who lives downtown...die.

What's your problem? Parking? It's not going to happen anyway, but it should.

**Bowser** · 11-11-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CHENZ A!

What's your problem? Parking? It's not going to happen anyway, but it should.

*insert "not this shit again" photo*

I said it before and I'll say it again - if they would just build up the are around the Truman Sports Complex, you'd never hear anyone wanting to have baseball downtown in this city.

Strongside · 11-11-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CHENZ A!

What's your problem? Parking? It's not going to happen anyway, but it should.

haha, nah. Just the overall traffic. It's already ****ed. 3/4 of downtown is under road construction 90% of the time, as are the surrounding highways. It would be a nightmare to get 40k people into that area and back out in any kind of order. It'd be the Big 12 tournament x8...and it's ****ED down here during the tournament. Not only that, but I don't want any more drunken idiots pissing/puking/shitting at my doorstep than what PNL already provides.

I live in the River Market, but it's close enough.

Granted, I'd love to be able to walk to Royals Games. I'd rather them build it around where Kemper is.

Prison Bitch · 11-11-2013, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

*insert "not this shit again" photo*

I said it before and I'll say it again - if they would just build up the are around the Truman Sports Complex, you'd never hear anyone wanting to have baseball downtown in this city.

Totally stupid, they've had 40 yeras to "build up that area" and all you saw was a Taco Bell. Don't bring nonsense to that topic please, that area is a gross, impoverished place with zero existing real estate assets or companies located anywhere nearby. In 10 years KCK built a huge successful area with smart planning, the TSC has zero shot to replicate that in the least.

Strongside · 11-11-2013, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

*insert "not this shit again" photo*

I said it before and I'll say it again - if they would just build up the are around the Truman Sports Complex, you'd never hear anyone wanting to have baseball downtown in this city.

The area around Truman should be bombed.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1390308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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