Expectations and Alex Smith

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Let's pretend kc has a good draft, then comes tc and preseason. This is where kc always wins the SB. You all will be happy as pigs in shit. kc will almost assuredly do well in preseason because, well, they just will.

For somebody with a 2003 join date, it sure doesn't sound like you know this place very well.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

For somebody with a 2003 join date, it sure doesn't sound like you know this place very well.

hmm, well, maybe it's the kc fans over on the omane that have high expectations and not this place. However, as you've noticed, I've had the pleasure of lurking around and posting on cp for a long time and I do think I know this place pretty well but we shall see...

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

here's what's gonna happen fellas--if kc has a good draft expectations will again be high because, well, a good draft just does that to fans. If kc has a moderate to crappy draft then game over, you all will be freaking out.

Let's pretend kc has a good draft, then comes tc and preseason. This is where kc always wins the SB. You all will be happy as pigs in shit. kc will almost assuredly do well in preseason because, well, they just will.

Let's pretend kc has crappy to partly crappy draft, then tc comes and then preseason. If kc does ok in preseason some of you will be back on board, but the majority of you will reserve judgement or flat out crap fire until the real season.

as for the regular season, as I said in another post, I have no idea what to expect. If kc has a good draft IMHO then kc will have a shot to at the very least win a few more games than last year, but who knows...

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by hometeam

can't see it...

[BossChief]

You don't trade what equates to a first round pick for a 29 year old quarterback you intend to pay 10 million per year to... to win 7 or 8 games.

When you trade a first round pick for a 29 year old ANYTHING in football, you need to EXPECT immediate results.

If it's gonna take a year to get up to speed, then what is gonna be the next argument against just taking a quarterback first overall with intentions of sitting him for a year?

Can anyone answer me that?

[Nightfyre]

Then you have not been listening to the cynics at all. The cynics (such as myself) recognize that Alex Smith will play us straight to first-round playoff exit mediocrity. And then we will never again be in position to draft a franchise QB who can actually take us to the dance.

[Beeker]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Then you have not been listening to the cynics at all. The cynics (such as myself) recognize that Alex Smith will play us straight to first-round playoff exit mediocrity. And then we will never again be in position to draft a franchise QB who can actually take us to the dance.

Yeah, because Franchise QB's ONLY ever come out of the first round, right?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Beeker

Yeah, because Franchise QB's ONLY ever come out of the first round, right?

Outside of Brad freaking Johnson, Tom Brady and Drew Brees yes.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Outside of Brad freaking Johnson, Tom Brady and Drew Brees yes.

Joe Montana? Brett Favre?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Joe Montana? Brett Favre?

This decade. IE Years after the rules committee totally slanted the game in favor of passing offense.

[Beeker]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Outside of Brad freaking Johnson, Tom Brady and Drew Brees yes.

Joe Montana
Colin Kaepernick
Russell Wilson


There's 3 more for ya!

Unless of course you meant SUPER BOWL WINNING QB's... amirite?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Beeker

Unless of course you meant SUPER BOWL WINNING QB's... amirite?

That's exactly what I meant.

If you're making a decision based off a sample size of 10, wouldn't you want to go with most common denominator among those 10?

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Beeker

Yeah, because Franchise QB's ONLY ever come out of the first round, right?

The fact is, at some point in the playoffs, your QB will have to pick up the team and carry them to the next game. Alex Smith has had eight goddamned years in the league and has proven time and time again that he does not have that capability. Take Alex Smith in one hand and shit in the other. You've got the same stuff in both hands.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Beeker

Yeah, because Franchise QB's ONLY ever come out of the first round, right?

Great, wake me up when the Chiefs draft and develop a QB taken in any round in the draft.

Maybe I might care then, until then not so much.

[Beeker]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Great, wake me up when the Chiefs draft and develop a QB taken in any round in the draft.

Maybe I might care then, until then not so much.

I can't argue with that .... not in the least bit. Maybe they take a QB in the 3rd/4th rd this year. Maybe next year. Who knows? Maybe that guy turns out to be the QBotF you all are hoping for.

If Alex Smith turns out to be the turd most here think he is, you get 6-10, 5-11, and you get a fairly high draft pick both years ... top 15, and then he gets shitcanned. If you get 9-7, 10-6 then you get playoffs and possibly a win - you draft mid 20's. If you draft EJ Geno Ryan Barkley Glennon this year at 1.1, and he gets you 4-14 and 5-11 - WHAT'S THE FREAKING DIFFERENCE?????

Some of the folks on this forum seriously just can't stand the thought of a winning team because it's been that way for 30 years. I get it. I really do. I don't know what it's like to have my favorite team go 2-14 and draft a QB at 1.1 who for 6 years turns out to be a bust.

I HOPE Alex wins a playoff game this year for KC. I really do. I can't realistically sit here and say he'll win a SB with KC. I hope he DOES win a SB with KC, just not against the 49ers.