Chiefs NFL Team Official: Michael Sam Is ‘Not A Really Good Athlete’ - Page 14

R8RFAN · 05-09-2014, 01:20 PM

ST. LOUIS (CBS St. Louis) — It could be a very long weekend for Michael Sam.
The openly gay football player from the University of Missouri is hoping an NFL team takes a chance and makes history by drafting him, but some experts believe he might end up being an undrafted free agent.
Scouts told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that they don’t see Sam’s game transitioning to the NFL.
“Most of his production was hustle stuff,” an NFC personnel official told the Journal Sentinel. “There’s production, but he’s short, he’s not a really good athlete and he doesn’t play good against the run.”
He continued: “He’s kind of a one-task pass rusher. Just run up the field. And they swallow him up and kind of push him around.”
One NFC personnel director stated that Sam doesn’t have a position in the league.
“He’s not a linebacker, and he’s really not a defensive end,” the personnel director told the Journal Sentinel. “I’d certainly take him to camp. You’ve got to admire how hard he plays.”
An AFC executive said Sam was “short and slow.” Sam stands at 6 feet 2 inches and weighs 262 pounds.
Despite the potential setbacks, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is hoping to see Sam succeed in the league.
“I want to see Michael Sam get an opportunity to play in the NFL,” Goodell told ESPN Thursday before the first round of the NFL Draft. “We like to say the NFL is the ultimate meritocracy. If you can play football, they want to see you play. The teams want you. The fans want you. And that’s ultimately what it’s all about.”
Goodell continued: “I have great respect for Michael, his courage, his decision to become public, and I’m optimistic that he’s going to get that opportunity, and hopefully he can play at this level.”
Sam, who was the SEC’s Defensive Player of the Year, will be the first openly active gay player in the league.
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/05/...-good-athlete/

htismaqe · 05-10-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

So you admit, regardless of his wishes he is relegated to mascot status.

Because what, some things are more important than individual autonomous dignity.

Do you really honestly think that's possible?

The second he came out publicly, he became a pawn in the game. That's just the way our country works.

FloridaMan88 · 05-10-2014, 05:53 PM

If this is important to certain segments of the population then fine… they can recognize it and celebrate it all they want, but don't try to act like this is the same situation as Jackie Robinson.

Totally different dynamics at play.

keg in kc · 05-10-2014, 05:53 PM

The back-and-forth on this thread is a great representation of exactly why it is such a big deal.

**kysirsoze** · 05-10-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

So a controversy hungry media is more important than Michael Sam?

You clearly didn't read my post. I didn't excuse the media, I said it's a big story. The media shitting all over it doesn't change that.

**RealSNR** · 05-10-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

"I don't care if he's gay just as long as he acts in a way that I want him to act."

Agreed, but the cake thing was ****ing weird.

I've never seen a straight couple smush cake into each other's faces.

Just Passin' By · 05-10-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

So you admit, regardless of his wishes he is relegated to mascot status.

Because what, some things are more important than individual autonomous dignity.

They can't see the difference between a story and an agenda.

**Baby Lee** · 05-10-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I don't really see many people "celebrating" in here.

But yes I'm sure Sam and many other gays wish it wasn't a story. I'm sure they would prefer that it didn't matter. But society isn't there yet.

I'm there yet. But you go ahead and feed into the frenzy that Michael wishes didn't exist.

Sandy Vagina · 05-10-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Clearly, you do care.

I know some folks are out there doing their little gay thing, and that's their business... but don't make it our business by showing that shit on TV. Now if that's somehow wrong? then I don't want to be right.

kcxiv · 05-10-2014, 05:55 PM

Hard Knocks to St. Louis? NFL wont miss this. lol

**KcMizzou** · 05-10-2014, 05:55 PM

Rany Jazayerli ‏@jazayerli 7m

Am I a homophobe if I'm unhappy the Rams drafted Michael Sam? What if it's because I wanted the Chiefs to sign him as a free agent?

Rany Jazayerli ‏@jazayerli 3m

I don't have a gay agenda. I have an analytic agenda. Getting the SEC co-Defensive Player of the Year in the 7th round seems like a steal.

BryanBusby · 05-10-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The back-and-forth on this thread is a great representation of exactly why it is such a big deal.

But it's not because I said so. So obviously, it ain't.

Just Passin' By · 05-10-2014, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

The back-and-forth on this thread is a great representation of exactly why it is such a big deal.

It's a big deal because some people are saying it's not a big deal?

Fascinating logic.

**Baby Lee** · 05-10-2014, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Do you really honestly think that's possible?

The second he came out publicly, he became a pawn in the game. That's just the way our country works.

I don't know if it's possible, but I know feeding into it disappoints Michael.

But feel free to toss him around like a political football [npi] because you feel that's how it has to be.

And I think the 'it's just the way the country works' line is the subtext to all of Donald Sterling's present woes.

I'll respect him instead and respond like his teammates 'Oh, thanks for telling me.' End of story.

Mr. Laz · 05-10-2014, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He doesn't have to allow people to use his likeness for pro-GLBT fundraisers nor does he have to consent to appear on camera kissing his BF.

So Manziel etc can do promotional stuff but Sam can't because he's gay?

so all the other draftees have the cameras at their draft celebrations but Sam can't because he's gay?

Pitt Gorilla · 05-10-2014, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I don't care if he's gay or if anyone is, but I sure don't want to have to see that shit on TV like we did... I was eating at the time too.

This is why the Sam story matters.

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