Da bulls and 'Bron 'Bron

[tymania]

Picture is worth a 1000 words..

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I'm trying to figure out why this is so difficult for Laz to understand.

Hinrich makes an absurd amount for a bench player. The Bulls want to get 2 max players this offseason. Keeping Hinrich prevents them from getting 2.

Bosh has said he'd love to play with LeBron. If LeBron is hell bent on signing with the Bulls, then Bosh would likely follow. So that "getting bent over the table" deal where the Wizards got Hinrich and some foreign player that won't see the light of day in the NBA for at least 3 years, turned into the ability to get 2 really good players.

Laz has big ****ing balls calling someone else a moron when he clearly has no ****ing clue how the NBA and their cap/contract structure works.

Laz is a dumbass.

[Halfcan]

Lebron and Kobe on the same team= 10 rings in a row.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Lebron and Kobe on the same team= 10 rings in a row.

Like those two would coexist

[Hootie]

Yeah Laz definitely needs to find a different thread...

It's quite evident what the Bulls and Heat are doing and the others teams that have no chance at LeBron are reaping the benefits (for now) from all these teams giving players away to make a run at the elite free agency class.

[Hootie]

besides...

the 17th pick in the NBA draft is about as valuable as a 5th round NFL draft pick...

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Like those two would coexist

yep their egos would not even fit in the same state-lol

but what if???

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

besides...

the 17th pick in the NBA draft is about as valuable as a 5th round NFL draft pick...

Especially in this year's draft which is extremely weak.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I don't see how LeBron goes anywhere else but Chicago. I don't see any other situation that makes that much sense for his desires (to win a title).

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I don't see how LeBron goes anywhere else but Chicago. I don't see any other situation that makes that much sense for his desires (to win a title).

Miami makes more sense. Team with Wade.
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[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I don't see how LeBron goes anywhere else but Chicago. I don't see any other situation that makes that much sense for his desires (to win a title).

I could see miami being attractive if he, wade and bosh were to put their egos aside and coexist. they have the cash to get three guys signed if one of them is willing to take less, but I don't see anybody taking less to win; they all want to get theirs.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Miami makes more sense. Team with Wade.
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Rose is a more unselfish true point guard, whereas Wade is used to having the ball in his hands 80% of the time. Additionally, the Bulls have Noah, while the Heat don't have any solid bigs under contract. Beasley is a 3/4.

I think you put Amare and maybe Ray Allen in Miami and Bosh/LeBron in Chicago. Knicks sign Joe Johnson and re-sign David Lee. If LeBron opts for New York, I think Chicago goes hard after Bosh, then Joe Johnson.

[Sure-Oz]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/sp....html?src=tptw

June 26, 2010
Bulls May Be Front-Runners in James Sweepstakes
By JONATHAN ABRAMS

The LeBron James sweepstakes will kick off in Ohio on his home turf Thursday as five teams — the Chicago Bulls, the Miami Heat, the Knicks, the Nets and the Los Angeles Clippers — travel there in an attempt to woo James away from the Cleveland Cavaliers, an executive of one of the teams in the hunt said Saturday.

But the meetings might not be much more than a formality. The executive, who did not want to be identified discussing a player who is not yet a free agent, said he had gathered from discussions with his fellow N.B.A. executives that James was strongly leaning toward joining the Bulls in tandem with another free agent, Chris Bosh of the Toronto Raptors.

“I think it’s a done deal,” the executive said.

He said he thought James was going ahead with the meetings in Ohio “to be respectful to all these teams who jumped through these hoops,” a reference to the clubs, like the Knicks, who traded reasonably talented players like Jamal Crawford the last two seasons in an effort to open up as much salary-cap space as possible. But if James and Bosh are indeed going to Chicago, moves like the ones the Knicks made will have been done at least partly in vain.

The executive also said that the Dallas Mavericks were trying to join the Ohio meetings with James. Unlike the other potential suitors, however, the Mavericks are over the salary cap and could obtain James only through a sign-and-trade deal with the Cavaliers.

Even if the Bulls are now perceived to have the inside track, the other teams will make their pitches to James, who has been in the league for seven seasons, all with the Cavaliers, and has yet to win a championship.

But their proposals will be without the flair and drama of a free-agent tour, because James has decided to have everyone come to him. Various teams, like the Knicks, had lined up chefs and celebrities to help attract James, but with the meetings in Ohio, the discussion will be about rosters, not restaurants.

“He is going to make a basketball decision, so all that is unnecessary,” the executive said. “He just saved a lot of people a lot of money.”

In last Thursday’s draft, the effort by a number of teams, including the Bulls, to open up salary-cap space overshadowed the introduction of new players to the league.

On draft night, the Bulls traded Kirk Hinrich, a solid and gritty contributor who had helped them make the playoffs in five of his seven N.B.A. seasons, and the 17th overall draft pick to Washington for a future second-round pick.

It certainly did not make the Bulls a better team on paper, but it did put them $29.2 million under the projected salary cap of $56.1 million for next season.

That in itself is not enough cap room to sign both James and Bosh to maximum free-agent contracts, and it means the Bulls would have to make another move. But the team executive said he felt the Bulls would be able to do so, and if they can land James and Bosh, they will form a formidable core with Joakim Noah and the electrifying point guard Derrick Rose.

As for the Knicks, they are projected to be about $34.15 million below the cap, with the Nets at $27 million and the Heat at $27.6 million if they re-sign Dwyane Wade and waive James Jones. It is unclear what the Knicks and the Nets will do with all that money if they can’t sign James or Bosh and if Wade stays put.

Free agency officially begins at 12:01 a.m. Thursday. Later that day, teams will start meeting with James, although not all of them on the first day.

The Knicks can try to lure him with stories about how he would become even more rich and famous than he already is by playing at Madison Square Garden. However, their best player, David Lee, is about to become a free agent as well, and few other players are under contract.

The Nets can try to convey the buzz being created by their new owner, Mikhail D. Prokhorov, and by their planned move to a yet-to-be-built arena in Brooklyn.

Even the often overmatched Clippers can point to a respectable young core of players.

The Cavaliers can cite loyalty and the comfort of home and the fact that James has already been to the N.B.A. finals once as a Cleveland player. Under the terms of free agency, they can also offer him somewhat more money and an extra contract year — six versus five — compared with the other teams trying to land him. They have talked to James all along, of course, and will continue to do so.

The decision for James to host teams in Ohio was first reported by Yahoo. Maverick Carter, James’s business manager, told ESPN that his client “never planned to go on a tour and has not been a part of any team’s plans for a recruiting trip.”

Instead, he will stay near home and will probably be joined in the meetings by Carter, his agent Leon Rose and his longtime confidante William Wesley. They will listen to everyone, although at this point, it appears they may be listening a little more closely to the Bulls.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/sp....html?src=tptw

June 26, 2010
Bulls May Be Front-Runners in James Sweepstakes
By JONATHAN ABRAMS

The LeBron James sweepstakes will kick off in Ohio on his home turf Thursday as five teams — the Chicago Bulls, the Miami Heat, the Knicks, the Nets and the Los Angeles Clippers — travel there in an attempt to woo James away from the Cleveland Cavaliers, an executive of one of the teams in the hunt said Saturday.

But the meetings might not be much more than a formality. The executive, who did not want to be identified discussing a player who is not yet a free agent, said he had gathered from discussions with his fellow N.B.A. executives that James was strongly leaning toward joining the Bulls in tandem with another free agent, Chris Bosh of the Toronto Raptors.

“I think it’s a done deal,” the executive said.

He said he thought James was going ahead with the meetings in Ohio “to be respectful to all these teams who jumped through these hoops,” a reference to the clubs, like the Knicks, who traded reasonably talented players like Jamal Crawford the last two seasons in an effort to open up as much salary-cap space as possible. But if James and Bosh are indeed going to Chicago, moves like the ones the Knicks made will have been done at least partly in vain.

The executive also said that the Dallas Mavericks were trying to join the Ohio meetings with James. Unlike the other potential suitors, however, the Mavericks are over the salary cap and could obtain James only through a sign-and-trade deal with the Cavaliers.

Even if the Bulls are now perceived to have the inside track, the other teams will make their pitches to James, who has been in the league for seven seasons, all with the Cavaliers, and has yet to win a championship.

But their proposals will be without the flair and drama of a free-agent tour, because James has decided to have everyone come to him. Various teams, like the Knicks, had lined up chefs and celebrities to help attract James, but with the meetings in Ohio, the discussion will be about rosters, not restaurants.

“He is going to make a basketball decision, so all that is unnecessary,” the executive said. “He just saved a lot of people a lot of money.”

In last Thursday’s draft, the effort by a number of teams, including the Bulls, to open up salary-cap space overshadowed the introduction of new players to the league.

On draft night, the Bulls traded Kirk Hinrich, a solid and gritty contributor who had helped them make the playoffs in five of his seven N.B.A. seasons, and the 17th overall draft pick to Washington for a future second-round pick.

It certainly did not make the Bulls a better team on paper, but it did put them $29.2 million under the projected salary cap of $56.1 million for next season.

That in itself is not enough cap room to sign both James and Bosh to maximum free-agent contracts, and it means the Bulls would have to make another move. But the team executive said he felt the Bulls would be able to do so, and if they can land James and Bosh, they will form a formidable core with Joakim Noah and the electrifying point guard Derrick Rose.

As for the Knicks, they are projected to be about $34.15 million below the cap, with the Nets at $27 million and the Heat at $27.6 million if they re-sign Dwyane Wade and waive James Jones. It is unclear what the Knicks and the Nets will do with all that money if they can’t sign James or Bosh and if Wade stays put.

Free agency officially begins at 12:01 a.m. Thursday. Later that day, teams will start meeting with James, although not all of them on the first day.

The Knicks can try to lure him with stories about how he would become even more rich and famous than he already is by playing at Madison Square Garden. However, their best player, David Lee, is about to become a free agent as well, and few other players are under contract.

The Nets can try to convey the buzz being created by their new owner, Mikhail D. Prokhorov, and by their planned move to a yet-to-be-built arena in Brooklyn.

Even the often overmatched Clippers can point to a respectable young core of players.

The Cavaliers can cite loyalty and the comfort of home and the fact that James has already been to the N.B.A. finals once as a Cleveland player. Under the terms of free agency, they can also offer him somewhat more money and an extra contract year — six versus five — compared with the other teams trying to land him. They have talked to James all along, of course, and will continue to do so.

The decision for James to host teams in Ohio was first reported by Yahoo. Maverick Carter, James’s business manager, told ESPN that his client “never planned to go on a tour and has not been a part of any team’s plans for a recruiting trip.”

Instead, he will stay near home and will probably be joined in the meetings by Carter, his agent Leon Rose and his longtime confidante William Wesley. They will listen to everyone, although at this point, it appears they may be listening a little more closely to the Bulls.

Yeah I just heard on espn radio that Bosh will join James in Chicago.

[Sure-Oz]

I am a bulls fan, probably since jordan retired the first time. I guess that may be bandwagon but this would be sweet if they got lechoke and bosh

I wish KC had a nba team

[notorious]

Don't get me too excited, guys.



It could go from LeBron and Bosh to Sellers and Oakley in a hurry.