Sac's 2012 End of Season Mock - Page 14

Saccopoo · 09:12 PM

1. Peter Konz, C; Wisconsin: 6'3", 313 lbs.
- Yep, it's a ten pick reach at minimum, but Casey Wiegmann, while one of the best at his position during his career, is sniffing 40 and contemplated retirement before this past season. Rather than moving Hudson to center, keep him at guard (where he was a three time ACC first teamer & AP AA) and get a guy like Konz when you have the chance. He's big, physical and has the strength to handle even the biggest defensive tackles. I don't know if he's as good as Alex Mack at the same stage, but he reminds me a lot of him.

Other options would include OT's Riley Rieff or Jon Martin; ILB's Luke Kuechly or Dont'a Hightower (no Burfict as he hasn't shown the instincts to play at the next level or the capability to be anything other than a 15 yard personal foul waiting to happen).

2. Matt Reynolds, OT; BYU: 6'6", 330 lbs.
- Reynolds is a four year starter, and three year conference first teamer at left tackle. This also might be a bit of a reach, but he won't last beyond the second round and is most likely a better pro prospect than any offensive tackle beyond the top three. He's very athletic for a guy his size and could effectively play either side of the line. Plays nasty and through the whistle. Barry Richardson might be the worst starting offensive tackle in the NFL and the position needs to be addressed immediately. If the Chiefs don't get a shot at one of the top three in the first round, it needs to be addressed here - and Pioli has also shown the propensity to draft offensive line in the second round.

3. Derrek Wolfe, DT; Cincinatti: 6'5", 310 lbs.
- Initially, I would have loved the Chiefs to have picked up Wolfe in the 5th round, but after a monster 2011 season where he had 19.5 tackles for a loss and 9.5 sacks from the defensive tackle position for the Bearcats, he's going to be a riser, especially at the 3-4 defensive end spot where his length and speed to go along with his size are damn near prototype for the position. Jackson flashed a couple times in 2011 for the Chiefs, but Dorsey just looks like a "guy" out there and has a tendency to get absolutely engulfed by NFL guards.

4. Vick Ballard, RB; Mississippi State: 5'11", 215 lbs.
- With teams loading the box in an effort to stop him (because the Bulldogs didn't have much else offensively), Ballard still managed over 1000 yards on a 5.6 yards per carry. He's physically solid with good muscle mass and has very good vision. Is effective inside as well as out and is a good receiver. He went for 180 yards and two TD's in the Music City Bowl to close out his college career. He's a really good runnning back that would effectively fill the Thomas Jones spot in the lineup.

5. Tank Carder, MLB; TCU; 6'2", 240 lbs.
- With the two best blocking tight ends (Lutzenkirchen and Williams) going back to school for the 2013 season, this gets changed to linebacking stud Carder, who is the two-time MWC Defensive Player of the Year. Very instinctive and fundamentally sound, he was asked to do a lot in the middle playing in TCU's oddball 4-2-5 defense. Is effective in both coverage and filling the gaps on runs. Likes to put the big hit on carriers, but also plays smart. Is long and would be capable of carrying more weight to play inside in a 34. MVP of the 2011 Rosebowl when TCU beat a very good Wisconsin team. The guy can play some football.

6. Sean Cattouse, SS; California: 6'2", 215 lbs.
- With the loss of Berry at the start of the season, it highlighted the lack of depth that the Chiefs have at the strong safety position. McGraw has superb instincts but runs like he's in molasses. Sabby was a stopgap because of the injury. Cattouse has been solid for the Bears all season and one of the few bright spots on their defense. He's big, fast, likes to put the big hit on guys and has the tools to be an effective player with coaching. This is what you want in a backup strong safety.

7. Nick Provo, TE; Syracuse: 6'4", 250 lbs.
- Originally this was Caleb McSurdy, ILB; Montana, but with the pick of Carder in the fifth, another productive tight end on the roster is needed. Provo was First Team All-Big East in 2011 and set the Syracuse school record for career receptions for a tight end despite really only getting onto the field his junior and senior seasons. A Mackey semi-finalist in 2011.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-21-2012, 11:30 AM

Ah, the annual whack a mole on Sac's mock draft. Gotta love it.

**Bowser** · 01-21-2012, 02:14 PM

If this draft went exactly as Sac hopes it does, I could still completely see him wanting a similar draft in 13.

**Bowser** · 01-21-2012, 02:46 PM

Sac's draft addresses all our "need" areas under the assumption that we will do nothing to fill them via FA.

Chris Meck · 01-21-2012, 03:11 PM

sure, and it also does so with each player at least a round too early, projected to play positions where in some instances there is a need and some it's merely Sac's complete lack of football knowledge creating a need.

This guy has no idea which players on the team are good and which aren't. He actually thinks that replacing Dorsey and Albert are top priorities.

Dumb.

aturnis · 01-22-2012, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

No. If this team is going with Cassel, the last thing we need is to protect him with more multi-million dollar players.

He needs to fail and fail badly so that we can finally walk away.

You want to give Cassel and Pioli excuses for why Cassel failed? If you fix all of the problems and Cassel still fails, it's pretty obvious who the problem is. If he has a shotty Oline and Charles doesn't come back 100%, well then, you can count on Cassel being back.

**Dave Lane** · 01-22-2012, 08:01 AM

What the **** is going on in here? JFC a guard or C at 11? **** me with a rusty pizza cutter...

Its threads like this that make me hate being a Chiefs fan.

jspchief · 01-22-2012, 08:04 AM

Shoddy

htismaqe · 01-22-2012, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis

You want to give Cassel and Pioli excuses for why Cassel failed? If you fix all of the problems and Cassel still fails, it's pretty obvious who the problem is. If he has a shotty Oline and Charles doesn't come back 100%, well then, you can count on Cassel being back.

Pioli is already out of excuses. If Pioli is going to stick with Cassel, they're BOTH gonna get fired instead of just one of them.

Give these guys Trent Richardson and they'll not only not have to worry about that, we'll probably be treated to them for the next 6-8 years!

aturnis · 01-22-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Shoddy

Thanks. Not part of my usual vocabulary.

O.city · 01-22-2012, 02:20 PM

If Poe is projected to be Wilfork type or Ngata type, I'd be fine with taking him. Although I'd rather bring in Soliai thru free agency.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-22-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If Poe is projected to be Wilfork type or Ngata type, I'd be fine with taking him. Although I'd rather bring in Soliai thru free agency.

IMO, Crennel if anything won't **** around here so if it isn't balls out for a QB then it would be the best available NT.

O.city · 01-22-2012, 06:23 PM

If Poe is that kind of player, I'd love to have him.

I really like Soliai too.

aturnis · 01-22-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

IMO, Crennel if anything won't **** around here so if it isn't balls out for a QB then it would be the best available NT.

It will certainly be the player who will have the most impact for the team. At our pick, that's probably Richardson. Defensive team, lacking at QB.

The Poz · 01-24-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If Poe is projected to be Wilfork type or Ngata type, I'd be fine with taking him. Although I'd rather bring in Soliai thru free agency.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4365/paul-soliai

"Several sources" tell the Palm Beach Post the Dolphins are expected to switch to a 4-3 defense in 2012, and that as a result free agent NT Paul Soliai will be allowed to walk.
New coach Joe Philbin has yet to even hire a defensive coordinator, but this could be a sign he's not planning to lure an assistant from his former Green Bay. The Packers have run a 3-4 since hiring DC Dom Capers in 2009. Soliai had a disappointing season playing under the franchise tag in 2011, grading out as Pro Football Focus' 38th best defensive tackle.

jd1020 · 01-24-2012, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poz

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4365/paul-soliai

"Several sources" tell the Palm Beach Post the Dolphins are expected to switch to a 4-3 defense in 2012, and that as a result free agent NT Paul Soliai will be allowed to walk.
New coach Joe Philbin has yet to even hire a defensive coordinator, but this could be a sign he's not planning to lure an assistant from his former Green Bay. The Packers have run a 3-4 since hiring DC Dom Capers in 2009. Soliai had a disappointing season playing under the franchise tag in 2011, grading out as Pro Football Focus' 38th best defensive tackle.

I think it was almost a given, even if they weren't planning on switching to a 4-3, that he would walk. They haven't been able to agree on an extension in 2 years and you can't use the franchise tag on the same player 2 years in a row.

01-10-2012, 01:53 PM
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