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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-17-2012, 06:16 PM   #196
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No player is a guarantee to reach their potential, no matter who evaluates them.
That's an interesting comment, considering many (yourself included) seem to think that we've built this All-World roster (full of guys with potential but little/no experience) minus the QB position.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:17 PM   #197
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I realize injuries happen, but not to your biggest offensive weapon and possible your best defensive player in the same season, for hte whole season.



Take away Ed Reed and Ray Rice and the Ravens don't make the AFC Champ game.
He'll, take away Poluamau, do the Steelers make rhetoric playoffs? How were the Colts without Sanders in his early injury years? Or the Ravens without Reed as you pointed out. Warpath and Goatboy are severely underestimating the value of Berry and Charles to this team.
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Fine. Why do you care about Clark's money or a make-believe cap?
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That's an interesting comment, considering many (yourself included) seem to think that we've built this All-World roster (full of guys with potential but little/no experience) minus the QB position.
Just curious, but who are these players?
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So when do we get to hear Pioli's thoughts on this?


Isn't he due to have an interview where he says alot of words without saying anything?
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He'll, take away Poluamau, do the Steelers make rhetoric playoffs? How were the Colts without Sanders in his early injury years? Or the Ravens without Reed as you pointed out. Warpath and Goatboy are severely underestimating the value of Berry and Charles to this team.
You left out Mike Vrabel.
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Better yet, we beat him on the road.
Losing any game to that clown is a travesty.
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You guys are having trouble justifying a contract that is a full 30 million less than CJ and 20 million less than Fitz. Not even really in the same ballpark.

OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
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Just curious, but who are these players?
You mean the players that make up the All-World roster, yet have no/little experience or huge question marks surrounding them?
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Warpath and Goatboy are severely underestimating the value of Berry and Charles to this team.
With both of them on the team, and in fact both of them playing a terrific game, we got beat by 23 points at home.

And Charles' value really shone through in the season opener last year.
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This wasn't meant to be rhetorical.
B/c it matters to the future of this team.

Premier franchises don't just hand out bad contracts.
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B/c it matters to the future of this team.

Premier franchises don't just hand out bad contracts.
1: Again, you're ignoring that "the cap" doesn't really exist. You're the type of person who runs around the FA threads wondering "how did Washington sign that guy, they are $20M over the cap?" "Cap hell" is a myth.

2: Did you just say "premier franchises" in a discussion about the Chiefs?
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With both of them on the team, and in fact both of them playing a terrific game, we got beat by 23 points at home.

And Charles' value really shone through in the season opener last year.
I kinda put that on our bat shit crazy head coach, hired by our thumb up his ass GM.
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With both of them on the team, and in fact both of them playing a terrific game, we got beat by 23 points at home.

And Charles' value really shone through in the season opener last year.
He averaged 5.6 ypc. Not good enough?
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I kinda put that on our bat shit crazy head coach, hired by our thumb up his ass GM.
I agree it was Haley's fault. The game of telephone play calling didn't work. I don't blame Haley for doing it though, a man has to stand for something. Pioli drove him to that play calling by trying to micro manage him, I do fault Pioli for that, but I'm guessing Pili learned his lesson when Clark gave him a tongue lashing to remember.
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