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Old 07-19-2013, 06:59 AM  
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Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter" offense

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

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Old 07-19-2013, 07:51 PM   #196
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I agree Ryan isn't Rodgers/Brady/Brees elite but I think a team could win a sb with him without it being a Dilfer scenario. I would love to have him on the chiefs.
Andy Dalton has better numbers his first two seasons in the league as Ryan, but the majority of Chiefsplanet dismisses him as a game manager. He also has two straight playoff appearances and losses.

Yet Matt Ryan is somehow viewed as "elite". I don't get it.

And I don't think he'd win anything in KC. Atlanta has far more talent than the Chiefs yet Ryan has but a single playoff win.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:56 PM   #197
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Dalton and Ryan have damn near identical QB ratings from their first two years in the league. The latter, however, is viewed more favorably because he's continued to ascend; we'll see if Dalton does the same.

If Ryan were a Chief, he'd easily be the most talented QB ever to play in KC. Not even close.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:59 PM   #198
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If he is setting it to Smith's trengths, color me impressed.

Although, I'll wait til preseason and a game or two to make the call.
What's his strengths ?
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:00 PM   #199
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Dalton and Ryan have damn near identical QB ratings from their first two years in the league. The latter, however, is viewed more favorably because he's continued to ascend; we'll see if Dalton does the same.

If Ryan were a Chief, he'd easily be the most talented QB ever to play in KC. Not even close.
QB discussion aside, I think Cincy has a real chance to contend this season. Their team is loaded, they have great coaching and coordinators.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:04 PM   #200
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QB discussion aside, I think Cincy has a real chance to contend this season. Their team is loaded, they have great coaching and coordinators.
Yeah, I think their roster is incredibly promising. It doesn't take too much of an imagination to see them going on a run for a few years.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:09 PM   #201
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I'm not asking for a top-5 QB. Love to have it, but that's unfair.

But there's simply no looking at Alex Smith's career numbers and coming to any other conclusion than he's mediocre. Now, we're asking him to "develop" at 29-years-old, when he should be in his absolute prime.

We know what he is, an average QB who is not good enough to win a SB with. However, if we'd paid his true value to use him as a stop gap, meanwhile continuing to turn over stones for a real franchise QB, I would have applauded the move.
Look, I was pissed for a very long time over the trade. Half of it was what it probably meant in terms of the draft, and half what you mention in the value.

Whith that being said, do we really know exactly what his value is? You talk about his career; until Harbaugh became his coach two years ago hr absolutely sucked. The past two seasons where he actually haf a compitent coach he did a complete 180. Let's wait and see what a proven QB mentor of a head coach like Reid can do with him before passing final judgment.

People are getting all up in arms about Smith being compared to Green. Remember what we gave up for Green and how pissed off everyone was about it?
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:11 PM   #202
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I'm not asking for a top-5 QB. Love to have it, but that's unfair.

But there's simply no looking at Alex Smith's career numbers and coming to any other conclusion than he's mediocre. Now, we're asking him to "develop" at 29-years-old, when he should be in his absolute prime.

We know what he is, an average QB who is not good enough to win a SB with. However, if we'd paid his true value to use him as a stop gap, meanwhile continuing to turn over stones for a real franchise QB, I would have applauded the move.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:13 PM   #203
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People are getting all up in arms about Smith being compared to Green. Remember what we gave up for Green and how pissed off everyone was about it?
You're absolutely right that we don't have a crystal ball, so we can't talk in absolutes, and, if Smith comes anywhere close to Green's level of productivity, it will be a pretty decent trade.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:14 PM   #204
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Look, I was pissed for a very long time over the trade. Half of it was what it probably meant in terms of the draft, and half what you mention in the value.

Whith that being said, do we really know exactly what his value is? You talk about his career; until Harbaugh became his coach two years ago hr absolutely sucked. The past two seasons where he actually haf a compitent coach he did a complete 180. Let's wait and see what a proven QB mentor of a head coach like Reid can do with him before passing final judgment.

People are getting all up in arms about Smith being compared to Green. Remember what we gave up for Green and how pissed off everyone was about it?
That is where I am at. I didn't especially want them to go after Smith, I thought they overpaid for him too... but the idea that he is Cassel is just silly.
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I'm not asking for a top-5 QB. Love to have it, but that's unfair.

But there's simply no looking at Alex Smith's career numbers and coming to any other conclusion than he's mediocre. Now, we're asking him to "develop" at 29-years-old, when he should be in his absolute prime.

We know what he is, an average QB who is not good enough to win a SB with. However, if we'd paid his true value to use him as a stop gap, meanwhile continuing to turn over stones for a real franchise QB, I would have applauded the move.
Tyler Bray is the franchise QB. Nobody on here would have said shit if we traded to move up into the 2nd round and draft him.
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You're absolutely right that we don't have a crystal ball, so we can't talk in absolutes, and, if Smith comes anywhere close to Green's level of productivity, it will be a pretty decent trade.
You can if you're an idiot, and there are plenty of those on the board.
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