Is Aaron Rodgers GROSSLY overrated?

[Hootie]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ck-experiment/

I watched the entire GB/Det game and I must say...Rodgers has not gotten better at getting rid of the ball. He's got a lot of Alex Smith in him in that regard. He takes a TON of unnecessary sacks. It's bothersome. He also missed a wide open Jordy Nelson when trying to come back on 4th and 5 with a terrible pass 3 yards behind him in a clean pocket...

He's had 1 good playoff run. So has Joe Flacco.

Why does everyone think he's the best QB in the NFL?

I think he's top 5, certainly. But I also don't understand how Tony Romo is a choker, but Aaron Rodgers is not?

I have been grossly unimpressed with Rodgers this year...and in all honesty, the last few postseasons...super meh.

I've said this for a few years now, but...I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers and at this point, I don't even think it's close.

Also, Rodgers is nowhere near Peyton Manning (obvi) or IN HIS PRIME Tom Brady, let's be honest.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

People have said that Alex Smith is "good enough to break your heart". What does that make Manning?

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by milkman

There's always a little luck involved, but when you consistently choke, luck is just an excuse to fall back on for consistently failing.

Additionally, Fivehead falls apart mentally and starts throwing ducks and picks the minute things don't go exactly the way he planned, which is not a good quality to have in a sport where randomness plays a significant role in winning and losing.

[Hootie]

what does throwing TDs have to do with anything?

So Peyton is a better QB when he throws a 1 yard TD pass instead of letting Joseph Addai run it in?

Peyton played bad against KC in a game that, AND BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF, there was never a point where it looked like KC was ever going to win...

he threw a few lousy picks to Ty Law...but that game was literally played by Indy like a team protecting a 4th quarter lead the entire time...we didn't pick up a 1st down for almost 3 ****ing quarters...

Numbers don't really mean shit when you're QB'ing a team that was literally never in position to lose that game. Not once.

I'd have to go look at who he played next (Jacksonville?) but I don't really care enough right now...

He put them in a hole against New England and THE GREATEST CLUTCH QB EVER!!!!!!!! and then he dug them out of said hole and then played an AMAZINGLY EFFICIENT SUPER BOWL GAME AGAINST AN AMAZING DEFENSE THAT WAS SO GOOD REX GROSSMAN WAS THEIR QB.

You can't ****ing say things like "oh Peyton only won a Super Bowl because his teammates played super good!"

because it's a lie

[Ming the Merciless]

No.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Ha

who exactly in the AFC is going to beat him?

Denver is still going to win a minimum of 13 games this year.

I can see Bengals being a strong contender this year. I know I know it's the Bengals.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by milkman

There's always a little luck involved, but when you consistently choke, luck is just an excuse to fall back on for consistently failing.

Maybe.

But if this is the case, then Aaron Rodgers is GROSSLY overrated, no?

He loses close games at a historically bad clip. Why does no one notice and/or care?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I can see Bengals being a strong contender this year. I know I know it's the Bengals.

I never thought I'd see the day that Cincinnati could quietly put together a roster and make KC look irrelevant. Sad.

Browns are probably next.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I think there are a lot of factors that go into winning and losing football games...and when a team loses, I don't go all CP and just simply blame the QB.

Peyton has made some bad plays to lose important games, no doubt. No freaking doubt.

But he's not been any worse or any better than Tom Brady in the same situations...so I'm not sure why Peyton is a "choking loser" but Tom Brady is a "winner!"

It will never make any sense to me.

Thank God for Tom Terrific his kicker was Vinatieri and not Vanderjagt.

Why do Fivehead stans always deflect to Brady when cornered? It's such a poor argument for two reasons:

- There are other quarterbacks widely perceived to be on their level (Brees and Rodgers).

- A lot of Fivehead critics also feel that Brady has been extremely overrated post-Spygate (for instance, the 18-1 choke is even worse than anything Fivehead has ever pulled in his career). Personally, I would much rather have Rodgers than Brady or Fivehead. So bringing up Brady really doesn't have any effect on most people you're arguing with and is completely irrelevant.

[Hammock Parties]

How many QBs can do this? Ffffffuuuuuuuu overrated

[Hootie]

so if Manning is a choker

Brady is a choker

then who is good? ChargersFan...who is a good NFL QB?

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

How many QBs can do this? Ffffffuuuuuuuu overrated

1.

Aaron Rodgers.

But that .gif is his biggest flaw. 8.5 times out of 10 that results in a sack. There is no reason for him to not throw that ball away, or make a quick read, or anything other than what he just did...

It just proves my point. He takes 40+ sacks per 16 games.

Peyton takes about 15.

So while Peyton can't make that play and score that TD...he'll just score it 8 plays later instead while making the right football plays instead of the wrong football plays (as pictured in said .gif)

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Maybe.

But if this is the case, then Aaron Rodgers is GROSSLY overrated, no?

He loses close games at a historically bad clip. Why does no one notice and/or care?

He was pretty damn good in close games back in the 2010 playoffs, you know, the games that count the most.

[Hootie]

and not only that...but judging by the flag...it looks like the play didn't even count due to holding

He puts his lineman in terrible positions

and on top of that, he takes a nasty hit at the end...and the Packers aren't winning shit if he's not in the lineup

that's the film I bring up in the meeting room and tell him to stop doing

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

He was pretty damn good in close games back in the 2010 playoffs, you know, the games that count the most.

so Joe Flacco is a good QB because he had 1 good postseason?

Joe Flacco = Aaron Rodgers

right?

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

So while Peyton can't make that play and score that TD...he'll just score it 8 plays later instead while making the right football plays instead of the wrong football plays (as pictured in said .gif)

Unless it's a playoff game, then he'll just do this: