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O.city · 01-01-2015, 10:34 AM

Easy way to keep up.

Free agency in one spot. Here ya go. Who you want?

My interests would be

Cobb
Paea
A guard
ILB of choice
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...sive-interior/

John Dope · 01-03-2015, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Then why wasn't Kush in the lineup this year when LG was killing our season?

We all bitch about WR and QB but it was LG that really killed us. McGlynn couldn't pass block, Linkenbach can't run block. Offense was ****ed.

The fact that Kush was inactive a lot is worrisome.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-03-2015, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

I think Dorsey either plans on letting Hudson walk, or moving him out to guard.

If that were your plan, would you have a guy you want polished for center next year, hinder his learning curve to step in at guard?

If that's Dorsey's MO, I hope he's fired tomorrow.

O.city · 01-03-2015, 08:06 PM

I'd they planned on hudson playing guard, they have moved him to guard.

kccrow · 01-03-2015, 09:04 PM

The very fact that Mike McGlynn was not only on this roster, but allowed to start, is what worries me most about KC's line depth. I don't care if Kush is a backup center or not, he's played left tackle in college. Surely he could slide to left guard instead of McGlynn? That worries me about Kush.

John Dope · 01-03-2015, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

The very fact that Mike McGlynn was not only on this roster, but allowed to start, is what worries me most about KC's line depth. I don't care if Kush is a backup center or not, he's played left tackle in college. Surely he could slide to left guard instead of McGlynn? That worries me about Kush.

Exactly

**BossChief** · 01-03-2015, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

The very fact that Mike McGlynn was not only on this roster, but allowed to start, is what worries me most about KC's line depth. I don't care if Kush is a backup center or not, he's played left tackle in college. Surely he could slide to left guard instead of McGlynn? That worries me about Kush.

It doesn't worry me about Kush at all. I've seen in person and on film what he can do against starters and backups in this league.

What worries me is the OL coaches ability to coach.

It seems that no matter how many times opposing lines ran twists and ther stunts on us, we never really learned how to block them.
I put that on the coaches.

When someone like myself (with just a backround in high school football) can identify what a DL is trying to do and the OL coach can't...that's a massive problem.

It leads me to believe that they don't know fully what they are doing...and watching Kush play (impressively) in the finale last year and following it up with a very impressive preseason... makes me think the guys coaching the OL are fools. I hope I'm wrong.

Especially being I was a big fan of their hires.

**Easy 6** · 01-03-2015, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Exactly-if they run more than 5 yard routes-Alex won't dare take a chance of an interception and throw it to them. He would rather take the sack.

When I go outside the Planet and my own eyes to places like Arrowhead Pride and Arrowhead Addict, I see a lot of well thought out but flawed arguments about how its all going to be fixed with guards or receivers.

They make nice arguments that used to appeal to me, but those kinds of pieces have simply lost their luster... the only consistent thread in any of their articles, is the avoidance of calling out Alex Smith.

Its just all too easy to blame everyone but that guy, you know that guy, the one we paid elite money to? He not only didnt atleast get even with his first year here, he actually got WORSE... now, I do hear the calls that "well yeah but but, he had a tougher schedule so just getting almost even should be called a victory!".

No... Smith was two years into this system and so were his backs, tight ends and most receivers. What about the line? pretty sure Aaron Rodgers wasnt complaining about his rookie center and guard when he won the Super Bowl.

Long story short, Smitty can get bent... sick and tired of hearing the excuses... a guy with his check elevates the team and doesnt count on the defense and huge plays from checkdowns to save his ass.

Its strange, I know, someone like me selling out like this... too bad, he killed my soul in three straight games and since then he is a pariah to me, doooooont care what you think.

**BossChief** · 01-03-2015, 09:49 PM

I think that late hit by Von Miller will always be on the back of Alex Smiths mind.

There was a late hit in the game before that one, too that started the confidence Alex had in sitting back and having any patience at all.

The guy played rattled afterwards.

John Dope · 01-03-2015, 10:07 PM

They signed McGlynn off the street and started him immediately. That wasn't just one person's decision. They chose to go with the unknown over chemistry in a guy that had been on the roster for a while. It's not the coaches. It's the Kush. I admit, I liked what I've seen of him but there has got to be some things we aren't seeing.

RunKC · 01-03-2015, 10:15 PM

Dorsey is huge on comp picks. Year 1 it got him Knile Davis. That was his plan last offseason.
So if Hudson demands too much, Dorsey isn't overpaying. We aren't overpaying him.
We'll use the 3rd rd pick the following season.

This is something the Packers did and did well as seen here.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-even...1-a3a1df77e6ae

That's why Dorsey drafts to replace. It gives us more chances to hit on players and far more flexibility to use picks to trade up.

ChiefAshhole20 · 01-03-2015, 10:37 PM

^ Interesting theory

Since we're on the topic of OL, anyone ever find out what happened with Stephenson? It's just odd when Andy preaches having the "5 best guys on the line" whenever he has Kush and Donald constantly riding the bench.

aturnis · 01-03-2015, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I don't think 11 new players being on the roster next year is far fetched, o.

We need a right tackle, at least 1 guard (IMO we need 2), at minimum 1 more tight end, 2 ILBs, another rushbacker, 2 wide receivers, a quarterback, a safety and it would be smart to try and draft a plan b left tackle in case Fisher continues to be horrid.

This is a good draft class IMO and while I'd prefer to move mid to late rounders for a quality veteran or 3, that requires cap space that we really don't have unless we cut people and then that opens up another hole.

Don't forget we need depth on the O line, and swing guys. Eleven could easily make it. There are at least a few guys on the roster who could be beat out by a 6th out 7th rounder.

penbrook · 01-03-2015, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20

^ Interesting theory

Since we're on the topic of OL, anyone ever find out what happened with Stephenson? It's just odd when Andy preaches having the "5 best guys on the line" whenever he has Kush and Donald constantly riding the bench.

According to Dorsey Stephenson lost the trust of the coaches whatever that means

**Easy 6** · 01-04-2015, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by penbook

According to Dorsey Stephenson lost the trust of the coaches whatever that means

I took it to mean he came back from suspension with...

a) a bad attitude at having lost his status.
b) lots of rust.
c) most likely, a solid mix of both.

He mostly looked like shit when let back in because, well because the only thing I can reasonably attribute that dropoff to is c) all three.

Remember gblowfish talking about him skulking around by himself at the far end of the bench during the game, not engaged with the team, not nearby as things are going down?

I do... the lesson here? dont count on that guy coming back.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2015, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

I took it to mean he came back from suspension with...

a) a bad attitude at having lost his status.
b) lots of rust.
c) most likely, a solid mix of both.

He mostly looked like shit when let back in because, the only thing I can reasonably attribute that dropoff to is c) all three.

Remember gblowfish talking about him skulking around by himself at the far end of the bench during the game, not engaged with the team, not nearby as things are going down?

I do... the lesson here? dont count on that guy coming back.

IMO, you're reading FAR too much into a situation in which you aren't privy. Plenty of guys have come back from four game suspensions that have great years.

Stephenson participated in training camp and paid out of pocket to attend a six week camp with Jeff Allen. He was focused and ready for a great season. I'd be pissed as well if I was denied the opportunity to play, especially if I KNEW I was better than not one, but TWO guys ahead of me.

If Stephenson isn't allowed to compete and win a spot in 2015, the Chiefs should cut him and allow him to play elsewhere.

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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $2957078	The very fact that Mike McGlynn was not only on this roster, but allowed to start, is what worries me most about KC's line depth. I don't care if Kush is a backup center or not, he's played left tackle in college. Surely he could slide to left guard instead of McGlynn? That worries me about Kush.
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John Dope Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Casino cash: $10009960	They signed McGlynn off the street and started him immediately. That wasn't just one person's decision. They chose to go with the unknown over chemistry in a guy that had been on the roster for a while. It's not the coaches. It's the Kush. I admit, I liked what I've seen of him but there has got to be some things we aren't seeing.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1889611	Dorsey is huge on comp picks. Year 1 it got him Knile Davis. That was his plan last offseason. So if Hudson demands too much, Dorsey isn't overpaying. We aren't overpaying him. We'll use the 3rd rd pick the following season. This is something the Packers did and did well as seen here. http://www.packers.com/news-and-even...1-a3a1df77e6ae That's why Dorsey drafts to replace. It gives us more chances to hit on players and far more flexibility to use picks to trade up. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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ChiefAshhole20 Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Houston, TX Casino cash: $10005862	^ Interesting theory Since we're on the topic of OL, anyone ever find out what happened with Stephenson? It's just odd when Andy preaches having the "5 best guys on the line" whenever he has Kush and Donald constantly riding the bench.
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