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Old 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM  
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Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell

Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

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Old 09-14-2016, 11:28 AM   #196
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It's honestly tough to say. He obviously had some level of talent coming out of college or we wouldn't have drafted him. It sounds like he's not that smart of a guy, as the most public criticism we've heard about him is that he's had a lot of trouble grasping the terminology the Chiefs use. Aside from that, he largely just couldn't get on the field above other guys we drafted later, so he pretty much showed the fans nothing.
You'd have felt like that was something the scouting staff could have sniffed out, though...

The real truth is almost certainly that Russell ****ed up in some really severe way.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:30 AM   #197
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There had to have been an off the field issue then.
My thought process as well.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:30 AM   #198
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Well I'm done with the Adopt a Chief program.

Last year I had Gaines and he tore his ACl. Picked Russell this year.

I'm bowing out.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:31 AM   #199
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For as hell bent as Dorsey was on getting back into the third round (seriously, Captain Ahab wasn't as fixated as Dorsey was on the third round), he sure shit it away, didn't he?

So in effect, the Chiefs gave away an additional year of team control of Chris Jones for....nothing. Nothing at all. And that's what I hated about that trade down to begin with.

It wasn't Chris Jones, it was that if you really think Jones is a player, you just take him in the first and leverage the value of the player option to save yourself a shitload in the long-run. Agents are digging their heels in on franchise numbers now that they've gotten so high. The franchise tag isn't going to be much of a benefit for teams going forward. So if you can't get guys extended early, you're stuck fighting in the market for them.

One way to help get that extension is the threat of the 5th year option (see Fisher's deal, and Fisher's deal was even harder because the 5th year option for him was more than twice what it would be for a late first rounder).

The trade down failed.
I think this hinges on Parker Ehinger, who we drafted with through the compensation for that trade.

And honestly the kid looks like he could be a solid G after a year in the weight room. We'll have to see.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:32 AM   #200
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I think this hinges on Parker Ehinger, who we drafted with through the compensation for that trade.

And honestly the kid looks like he could be a solid G after a year in the weight room. We'll have to see.
Also Murray.

Dorsey obviously felt he can get some 3rd round talent with those early 4th round picks, so I disagree with DJ.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:34 AM   #201
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:37 AM   #202
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There had to have been an off the field issue then.
Totally agree. He ****ed up in some way. This isn't just his progression over the last 4 months or so. Not on a 3rd rounder.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:38 AM   #203
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:39 AM   #204
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The trade down failed.
Without the trade down, the Chiefs don't have at least three, if not four, of the following players:

Ehinger
Murray
Robinson
Hill
White
Nicolas

Let's say they took Jones at #1 and Russell at #2. Based on their draft positions, the draft would have looked like this:

1. Jones
2. Russell
3. ----
4. Eric Murray
5. Kevin Hogan
6. DJ White.

So, no Ehinger (hole at LG), no developmental receiver in Robinson, no speedster in Tyreek Hill and no developmental OLBer in Nicolas, Hogan cut.

Add to that, Russell still may have been cut.

The trade was far from a failure.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:40 AM   #205
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Right now, the 2016 draft class:

2. DE Chris Jones -- solid hit so far
3. CB Keivarae Russell -- epic fail
4. OG Parker Ehinger -- solid hit so far
4. S Eric Murray -- actual potential
4. WR Demarcus Robinson -- struggling
5. QB Kevin Hogan -- on another roster
5. WR Tyreek Hill -- solid hit so far
6. CB D.J. White -- actual potential
6. OLB Dadi Nicholas -- actual potential

Still looks like an okay draft if Russell completely flatlines.

Shocking he was released so soon. He had to have ****ed up in a very serious way.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:43 AM   #206
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5. QB Kevin Hogan -- on another roster
Hogan is on the Browns Practice Squad, not roster.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:44 AM   #207
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:45 AM   #208
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Hogan is on the Browns Practice Squad, not roster.
Fair enough. I suppose at this time he is our 4th QB until someone needs him on their 53.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:49 AM   #209
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Right now, the 2016 draft class:

2. DE Chris Jones -- solid hit so far
3. CB Keivarae Russell -- epic fail
4. OG Parker Ehinger -- solid hit so far
4. S Eric Murray -- actual potential
4. WR Demarcus Robinson -- struggling
5. QB Kevin Hogan -- on another roster
5. WR Tyreek Hill -- solid hit so far
6. CB D.J. White -- actual potential
6. OLB Dadi Nicholas -- actual potential

Still looks like an okay draft if Russell completely flatlines.

Shocking he was released so soon. He had to have ****ed up in a very serious way.
nitpick:

Was never a fan or not of him, but why doesn't WR Robinson get more slack? It's not like he's had much sample size, or shown to be good or bad, really. Not like he was expected to step right in as a WR1-3 contributor.
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Was never a fan or not of him, but why doesn't WR Robinson get more slack? It's not like he's had much sample size, or shown to be good or bad, really. Not like he was expected to step right in as a WR1-3 contributor.
I can only judge personally based on the preseason and the camp practice I saw, so my opinion (as always) is not definitive.

Robinson just isn't getting separation.
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