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04-22-2013, 12:49 PM | #2146 |
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If your 'upside' is a lateral move at less cost in Joeckel, I'll take my chances on the QB.
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qb paniced because he didn't feel like his backside was covered. We don't know how many times we ran a draw play because we didn't trust Albert or the O line as a unit to protect the QB. There's alot from our vantage point that we don't know. Also I would think that if Albert fit perfectly in Reids offense Reid wouldn't be trying to move on from him. There's just alot more to this then PFF stats recorded by some fan sitting on his sofa.
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You're arguing 'upside' as if it's there and tangible. It's not. This isn't about upside. It's about making the best of a draft that's weak and volatile at the top. If this was the 2012 draft, the Chiefs would take Andrew Luck and worry about the LT position later. It's not, though. It's the 2013 draft, and the consensus seems to be that there's no QB worth taking at #1, nevermind a generational prospect like Luck.
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With his history I'm not convinced he'll play all 16 games so to me that would be a bad bet for me. 25 for 16 games or 1.6 TDs per game?
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End of story. Deep down we both know it's not happening...
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If the whole !@#$ing draft class sucks, then you're right. Unless Brandon Albert gets traded for a 2nd and proceeds to outperform them all. Because he's going to dump a known quantity that's a damn good player to make room for the guy he's about to draft. As such, that guy had better be really !@#$ing good to justify dumping Albert.
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04-22-2013, 01:11 PM | #2155 | |
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A QB should be graded on what he COULD do in the NFL and the likelihood that he'll achieve it. If that chance is even reasonable, a QB (especially in an overall top-weak class like this) simply has to be the pick. That's a case where a team CAN'T afford to not take a risk. ESPECIALLY if they're a historically QB-starved team like KC with a historically brilliant QB coach in Andy Reid. |
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The point is that there's more variables then PFF stats. And there's been many a time since 2008 were we chose to go conservative on 3rd down because we couldn't block the defense.
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We've been conservative on 3rd downs because our quarterback has sucked dicks for the last 1/2 decade.
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You know what would make for qn exciting draft day 1? The Chiefs reach a long term agreement with Albert on a contract extension and draft Gwno Smith. As for the expectation discussion on if we draft Joeckel... He absolutely MUST be a clear, day one upgrade to Albert and be an all pro quality player in the early part of his career...say year two. FFS shouldn't we be allowed to have reasonable expectations on how the highest pick we have ever had us used without the ardent supporters clowning peoPle for having expectations? We were 2-14...I'm not interested in lateral moves that save 4 milliOn on the cap...I'm interested in A player that can help us win a championship a d is a massive upgrade over and existing player we already have. |
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You select a player that's going to IMPROVE your team if he hits. If Joeckel/Fisher plays at around the current ability of Albert, we haven't improved. And we're also down the 1st overall pick in a draft, which this team hasn't had since the AFL still existed. |
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