AFCW: Week 11

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Stats are stats.

Did you know in the last 4 games, the Chiefs defense has given up 1,355 yards to the Raiders, Texans, Browns and Bills?

The Broncos have given up 1,291 yards to the Jags, Colts, Redskins and Chargers.

What does it mean? I dunno, but over 800 yards of offense to the Browns and Bills is pretty stellar...

The Chiefs offense has tallied just under 1,000 yards of offense in the last 4 games, compared to nearly 1,700 for Denver.

Again, just more numbers to ponder.

Did you know yards aren't a deciding metric in determining wins and losses?

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by SNR

Did you know yards aren't a deciding metric in determining wins and losses?

I did realize that... but, it could give you an indication as to how much bend there is with a defense.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I did realize that... but, it could give you an indication as to how much bend there is with a defense.

And those last two games against inferior competition just before the long-awaited and somewhat delayed in the schedule bye week are THE indicator of how good this defense is, right? It's not everything they did before. Clearly teams just "figured out" the Chiefs defense, and it turns out the solution is so simple it can damn near be implemented by QBs like Jason Campbell and Jeff Tuel, right?

I mean, those last two games ARE the Chiefs. That's what you're trying to get at, right? Otherwise why even bother bringing up those last two games and highlighting them against the absolutely ****ing stellar production they had earlier in the season against superior QBs and more explosive offenses?

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by SNR

And those last two games against inferior competition just before the long-awaited and somewhat delayed in the schedule bye week are THE indicator of how good this defense is, right? It's not everything they did before. Clearly teams just "figured out" the Chiefs defense, and it turns out the solution is so simple it can damn near be implemented by QBs like Jason Campbell and Jeff Tuel, right?

I mean, those last two games ARE the Chiefs. That's what you're trying to get at, right? Otherwise why even bother bringing up those last two games and highlighting them against the absolutely ****ing stellar production they had earlier in the season against superior QBs and more explosive offenses?

I was looking back at the last month because it think that gives a good view of what they have done recently. Who were the superior QBs ands stellar offenses earlier in the season?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Denver gave up 80 pts. the last 3...kc 45

Denver 2 wins...kc 3

[Mile High Mania]

This game really cannot get here fast enough...

[BossChief]

Here is how you beat KCs defense:

Always know where Kendrick Lewis is.

He is the new Mike Brown as far as I'm concerned.

[TOUCHDOWN!!! KC]

Ravens 27 @ Broncos 49
Ravens record 4-5
Ravens Defense 8th Pts/G, 16th pass.

Donks first game of the season Vs the Ravens. No one knew what
to expect from the Donks. Everyone knew the Ravens Defense wasn't
going to be anything close to the Defense they've fielded over
the past decade. Ravens D has gotten better ever week since this game.


Broncos 41 @ Giants** 23
Giants record 3-6
Giants Defense 26th Pts/G, 10th pass.

Brother Vs Brother. Giants were 0-1 at this time. This was the
game we pretty much realized that the Giants weren't the same
Defense, or offense over the last couple years.


Raiders** 21 @ Broncos 37
Raiders record 3-6
Raiders Defense 21st Pts/G, 20th pass.

Meh it's the Faiders.


Eagles** 20 @ Broncos 52
Eagles record 5-5
Eagles Defense 20th Pts/G, 31st pass.

This is about the time that everyone realized that Chip Kelly's
offense wasnt going too burn up the NFL


Broncos 51 @ Cowboys** 48
Cowboys record 5-5
Cowboys Defense 23rd Pts/G, 32nd pass.

Tony Romo played a beautiful game too throw it all away on the
last pass of the game.


Jaguars 19 Broncos 35** 19 @ Broncos 35
Jaguars record 1-8
Jaguars Defense 32nd Pts/G, 13th pass.

Jags Defense hit BrokeNeck and kept it close. This was the game
the "National Media" realized that the Donks are beatable.


Broncos 33 @ Colts 39
Colts record 6-3
Colts Defense 9th Pts/G, 17th pass.

The "Homecoming". That realization came true. Plus the "BrokeNeck
Can't Win the BIG GAME".


Redskins 21 @ Broncos 45
Redskins record 3-6
Redskins Defense 31st Pts/G, 26th pass.

What no breakdown... yeah I got nothing for you on this game, or the
Skins. Except that they are improving and when the Chiefs actually
play them they will be a much improved team. (Barring Injury of course)


Broncos 28 @ Chargers 20
Chargers record 4-5
Chargers Defense 13 Pts/G, 28th pass.

Crybaby and the Dolts almost won this if my memory is correct. Not saying
it is... but I could be right.


**Chiefs also faced these teams.

KC 28 @ JAC 2
DAL 16 @ KC 17
KC 26 @ PHI 16
NYG 7 @ KC 31
OAK 7 @ KC 24

Teams the Chiefs have faced and the Donks haven't. Adding the rush defense
as well cause the Chiefs have a running game.

KC 26 @ TEN 17
Ten record 4-5
Defense 10th Pts/G, 6th pass, rush 18th


HOU 16 @ KC 17
Hou record 2-7
Defense 28th Pts/G, 1st pass, 14th rush


CLE 17 @ KC 23
Cle record 4-5
Defense 11th Pts/G, 9th pass, 6th rush


KC 23 @ BUF 13
Buf record 3-7
Defense 24th Pts/G, 25th pass, 30th rush

[Breaker]

Originally Posted by TOUCHDOWN!!! KC

Ravens 27 @ Broncos 49
Ravens record 4-5
Ravens Defense 8th Pts/G, 16th pass.

Donks first game of the season Vs the Ravens. No one knew what
to expect from the Donks. Everyone knew the Ravens Defense wasn't
going to be anything close to the Defense they've fielded over
the past decade. Ravens D has gotten better ever week since this game.


Broncos 41 @ Giants** 23
Giants record 3-6
Giants Defense 26th Pts/G, 10th pass.

Brother Vs Brother. Giants were 0-1 at this time. This was the
game we pretty much realized that the Giants weren't the same
Defense, or offense over the last couple years.


Raiders** 21 @ Broncos 37
Raiders record 3-6
Raiders Defense 21st Pts/G, 20th pass.

Meh it's the Faiders.


Eagles** 20 @ Broncos 52
Eagles record 5-5
Eagles Defense 20th Pts/G, 31st pass.

This is about the time that everyone realized that Chip Kelly's
offense wasnt going too burn up the NFL


Broncos 51 @ Cowboys** 48
Cowboys record 5-5
Cowboys Defense 23rd Pts/G, 32nd pass.

Tony Romo played a beautiful game too throw it all away on the
last pass of the game.


Jaguars 19 Broncos 35** 19 @ Broncos 35
Jaguars record 1-8
Jaguars Defense 32nd Pts/G, 13th pass.

Jags Defense hit BrokeNeck and kept it close. This was the game
the "National Media" realized that the Donks are beatable.


Broncos 33 @ Colts 39
Colts record 6-3
Colts Defense 9th Pts/G, 17th pass.

The "Homecoming". That realization came true. Plus the "BrokeNeck
Can't Win the BIG GAME".


Redskins 21 @ Broncos 45
Redskins record 3-6
Redskins Defense 31st Pts/G, 26th pass.

What no breakdown... yeah I got nothing for you on this game, or the
Skins. Except that they are improving and when the Chiefs actually
play them they will be a much improved team. (Barring Injury of course)


Broncos 28 @ Chargers 20
Chargers record 4-5
Chargers Defense 13 Pts/G, 28th pass.

Crybaby and the Dolts almost won this if my memory is correct. Not saying
it is... but I could be right.


**Chiefs also faced these teams.

KC 28 @ JAC 2
DAL 16 @ KC 17
KC 26 @ PHI 16
NYG 7 @ KC 31
OAK 7 @ KC 24

Teams the Chiefs have faced and the Donks haven't. Adding the rush defense
as well cause the Chiefs have a running game.

KC 26 @ TEN 17
Ten record 4-5
Defense 10th Pts/G, 6th pass, rush 18th


HOU 16 @ KC 17
Hou record 2-7
Defense 28th Pts/G, 1st pass, 14th rush


CLE 17 @ KC 23
Cle record 4-5
Defense 11th Pts/G, 9th pass, 6th rush


KC 23 @ BUF 13
Buf record 3-7
Defense 24th Pts/G, 25th pass, 30th rush

So are you saying that Denver has faced worse overall defenses and that is why our offense is the best in the league? If so I can make the exact same argument for the offenses the Chiefs have faced compared to Denver's.

Denver vs offenses

Ravens: #29 in yards, $22 in pts,
Redskins: #5 in yards, #11 in points,
Chargers: #7 in yards, # 18 in points,
Colts: #13 in yards, #14 in points,

Averages: #13 in yards, #13 in points.

Chiefs vs offenses

Titans # 21 in yards, #19 in points
Bills # 16 in yards, # 20 in points
Texans #9 in yards, # 27 in points
Browns # 25 in yards, #26 in points

Average: # 18 in yards, # 23 in points scored

Not only have the Chiefs faced significantly inferior offenses, these just happen to be the teams that they played against backup qb's.

Titans: Locker Out
Bills: EJ Manual out , Thad Lewis out
Texans: Schaub out, also lost Foster
Browns: Weeden, Hoyer out

So not only have you faced incredibly inferior offenses, you played all four with backup qb's. Obviously the defensive ranks for the Broncos are far lower that would be having missed 19 man games on defense to starters as opposed to 2 for the Chiefs.

Lets look at other metrics

Sacks allowed, Turnovers allowed

Chiefs

Titans: 19th most sacks allowed, # 20 in most turnovers
Bills: 4th most sacks allowed, 9th most turnovers,
Texans: 13th most sacks allowed, 7th most turnovers
Browns: 8th most sacks allowed, #24 in turnovers

Average: 11th most sacks, #15th in turnovers

Broncos:

Ravens: #7 in sacks allowed, #12 in turnovers
Redskins: # 27 in sacks allowed, #13 in turnovers
Chargers #29 in sacks allowed, #26 in turnovers
Colts: #21 in sacks allowed, # 29 in turnovers

Averages: #21 in sacks allowed, #20 in turnovers allowed

[MahiMike]

Broncos 34-23 sounds about right.

[RealSNR]

"Now" I care about yards given up?

How the **** did you arrive at that conclusion? Did you misread my post?