Ted Ginn on the block

[The Bad Guy]

I think he would fit extremely nicely as a slot receiver/KR/PR. I imagine the Tuna would require a 4th or maybe even 2 of our 5ths. Would you pull the trigger?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Only a man of your stature could make virtual rep points seem like currency or something to be heralded as an accomplishment in life.

Um, it's not an accomplishment, dipshit. It's a sign that my opinion IS respected, unlike yours.

BTW, the only person you're arguing with is yourself.

Get over it.

[Titty Meat]

Marques Colston and Courtland Finnegan were seventh round picks the same year. So was Jarrad Page.

[Hootie]

I really hope he stops using Ryan Succop after that last post...

Dane...please...for the love of god...stop using Ryan Succop to back up your 7th round argument.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by billay

Is Mic going to take his ball and go home or just give more shitty takes? Urban and Long are legit WR's according to you

Yes, your having put words onto my keyboard makes me want to steer clear of the forum entirely.

I guess if you're incapable of presenting an argument as to why Urban can't be a #4 on a team that's infinitely less talented than the one he came from (where he was a #4)... You make shit up and pretend I called Long something other than "a young kid with talent who could contribute if given a chance".

As you were soldier.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Bowser

So is Hootie making an argument that we should trade a 5th for Ginn, or that we should stop drafting after the third round?

I'm making the argument that any time you can get a talented player (Ginn) that is young and has upside...for a 5th round pick...you do it.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I really hope he stops using Ryan Succop after that last post...

Dane...please...for the love of god...stop using Ryan Succop to back up your 7th round argument.

Why Hootie? Was he NOT a 7th round pick? If the Chiefs hadn't selected him, what were the odds that he'd sign with KC as an UDFA?

Furthermore, I've provided more examples in Cassel and Colston. Whether you believe it to be true or not is not important but the fact remains that 7th round picks DO have value.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Yes, your having put words onto my keyboard makes me want to steer clear of the forum entirely.

I guess if you're incapable of presenting an argument as to why Urban can't be a #4 on a team that's infinitely less talented than the one he came from (where he was a #4)... You make shit up and pretend I called Long something other than "a young kid with talent who could contribute if given a chance".

As you were soldier.

He wasn't fourth on Arizonas depth chart you continue to lie for these shitty players.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bowser

So is Hootie making an argument that we should trade a 5th for Ginn, or that we should stop drafting after the third round?

Both.

In Hootie's mind, the draft is irrelevant beyond round one.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Tell that to Matt Cassel, Marques Colston and Ryan Succop, just off the top of my head.

Three cherry-picked examples don't override 30 combined years of draft history.

The fact that a HORRIBLE drafting team like the Chiefs had as much luck - and in fact more, if you count Succop - as the COLTS AND STEELERS proves that 7th round picks are worthless.

And the fact you brought up Colston only further proves my point. He's the ONLY seventh round pick the Saints had in the last 10 years that was worth a shit.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Um, it's not an accomplishment, dipshit. It's a sign that my opinion IS respected, unlike yours.

It's not an indication that your opinion is the only viable one in the forum.
Or that you're so much more knowledgeable than everyone else...

Good thing I don't have rep points of my own.
But ultimately that's of no consequence to me.
Hell, up until now...I didn't even know where to find them.
That's how important they are to me.

[Hootie]

and like I said about 5th-7th round picks...

They are just glorified UFA's...

Basically the same success rate...some 5th round picks on the Chiefs board are probably not even on half of the other draft boards NFL teams have...

After the 4th round teams just start taking 'their' guys and that's that...that's why all of the wannabe's on the web with their awesome little draft boards (walter football, anyone) have laughing stalk 4th-7th round mocks every year.

No one ever comes close.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I'm making the argument that any time you can get a talented player (Ginn) that is young and has upside...for a 5th round pick...you do it.

What about Steve Breaston? He was a fifth round pick by Arizona and was quickly turned into a 1,000 yard receiver.

I'd take a player that plays 30-50 snaps a game over a player that's only involved in 7-10.

What is it that you don't get?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Three cherry-picked examples don't override 30 combined years of draft history.

The fact that a HORRIBLE drafting team like the Chiefs had as much luck - and in fact more, if you count Succop - as the COLTS AND STEELERS proves that 7th round picks are worthless.

And the fact you brought up Colston only further proves my point. He's the ONLY seventh round pick the Saints had in the last 10 years that was worth a shit.

So you're saying that they're worthless and have no value? No trade value, no player value, just flat out valueless?

JFC.

How successful would the Saints have been without Colston? Without Cassel, the Patriots don't get a 2nd round pick for him. Does this point need to be proven ad nauseam?

[Titty Meat]

The Raiders got Chaz Schillens the in the seventh round too.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Brandon Carr. 5th round pick.