Peter King: Herm will draft Matt Ryan to buy himself another year

[FloridaMan88]

I still doubt the Chiefs will take Ryan, but this is an interesting rationale for why they might and this is totally in line with the piece of garbage that Herm is.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...21/mmqb/1.html

Kansas City. Boston College QB Matt Ryan. Just a hunch, though they'll have trouble passing on Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long.

Strange thing here. At the combine, Carl Peterson told me the Chiefs loved Ryan, but there was no way they could take him because of their needs elsewhere. (Offensive line, I'm guessing.) Then they sent half the front office to his workout the other day at BC. Methinks Carl does not want to be the man to pass on the guy he thinks will be a franchise player. The other thing this does is buy coach Herman Edwards one more year of rebuilding. Even if the Chiefs go 5-11 this year, they couldn't whack Edwards until after they got a really good look at Ryan.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ah yes lets compare Ryan and Leaf despite them being nothing like each other, just like the guy who kept bringing up Alex Smith.

Actually, I'm not comparing Matt Ryan to Ryan Leaf.

I'd just like to remind people that Peyton Manning was debateable as the best QB in the draft that year.

We can all sit here and argue over who has what talent, but at the end of the day, NFL teams have people that know 100x more than the most informed poster on this site... and they still have a pretty high chance of getting it wrong.

Matt Ryan has a chance to be a decent QB in the NFL. Jake Long has a chance to be a decent LT in the NFL. The fact that both players will be drafted in the top 10 indicates that most NFL teams probably agree with those two statements.

So how is it that people can sit here and argue that player X is definately not worthy of that pick while player Y is? Regardless of team draft order, these guys are nearly consensus top 10 picks.

The fact is, whether it's Ellis, Long, Ryan, or whoever... the Chiefs are going to pick a very good prospect. I don't care who it is beyond a general yearning to fill a particular hole on the team. I'm sure as hell not going to sit here and pretend I see something that multi-million dollar operations have missed.

[crazycoffey]

nicely said jsp...

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

People are citicizing Croyle's decision making but are defending Ryan's? 56 TD to 37 INTs in college isn't very good.

His supporting cast wasnt' very good either. I don't know about you, but I know if my recievers couldn't seperate or catch it would be easy for DB's to steal some balls.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

People are citicizing Croyle's decision making but are defending Ryan's? 56 TD to 37 INTs in college isn't very good.

Do you realize how many times Matt Ryan threw the ball?

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by RustShack

His supporting cast wasnt' very good either. I don't know about you, but I know if my recievers couldn't seperate or catch it would be easy for DB's to steal some balls.

Yea, Ryan certainly didn't have the luxury of playing behind the brick wall that is Will Svitek and John Welbourn, while handing off to workhorses like Kolby Smith, and passing to... whoops, another sack

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Yea, Ryan certainly didn't have the luxury of playing behind the brick wall that is Will Svitek and John Welbourn, while handing off to workhorses like Kolby Smith, and passing to... whoops, another sack

Well its a good thing he was't our QB LAST YEAR than isn't it.

[pikesome]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Do you realize how many times Matt Ryan threw the ball?

Ratios don't change when the sample increases.

It'd be like 19 TDs and 13 INTs.

[Mecca]

807 1,347 9,313 60.0% 56 37

37 Int's in 1,347 attempts, 654 coming in this last year crappy WR's.

[pikesome]

Originally Posted by Mecca

807 1,347 9,313 60.0% 56 37

37 Int's in 1,347 attempts, 654 coming in this last year crappy WR's.

I hear your argument. The number of balls thrown doesn't change the TD/INT ratio though.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Mecca

807 1,347 9,313 60.0% 56 37

37 Int's in 1,347 attempts, 654 coming in this last year crappy WR's.

Lots of throws, but only 6.9 yards per attempt which places him 56th in the nation. That's a lot of picks for a guy with such a low ypa.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Lots of throws, but only 6.9 yards per attempt which places him 56th in the nation. That's a lot of picks for a guy with such a low ypa.

But, but, his recievers sucked. Sounds like the excuses we'll hear when he starts throwin picks in the NFL. Those recivers also weren't covered by pro corners, and safeties.

[blueballs]

yippie
over a month to go

[PhillyChiefFan]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Ha! If we take a QB in the 1st we will not win 5 games. As a consolation, I guess that means we can draft Oher with the #1 pick in the 2009 draft.

Unfortunatly, this would be the SMART move in this situation, however we are talking about Carl. He's a crafty sunovabitch.

As a side note, I would love to have Michael Oher.

[sedated]

If you are going to take a risk at a possible franchise player, I'd prefer its with a QB rather than an OLineman.



If Ryan was the perfect QB that everyone here seems to need before they pull the trigger on a top 5 pick, he'd be going #1 and we wouldn't have a shot anyway.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ryan probably isn't going to be there when we pick anyway but it's gonna make me laugh in a couple years when everyone is going apeshit that we don't have a QB then complains that all these QB classes suck...

College going to the spread option is hurting the QB classes...Ryan is big, has major intangibles, is smart, threw the ball a ton of times in a pro style offense. Honestly the only thing he doesn't have is the cannon arm and how many guys are succeeding right now without that? Plenty.

How do you know we don't already have that QB in Croyle? And you don't have to throw in your standard reply of "he is made of glass". He came from a pro style offense at Alabama. He had no help on offense at all. And he led them to a 10-1 record (Or something like that. I am not going to look it up.). He has the intangables.

And the sample space we have on him is too small to just throw out the window. Plain and simple. He needs a line in front of him to have a chance to run the offense. LJ needs the line in front of him to run.

To say he doesn't have "it" because he was only a third round pick is absurd too.

And while I am at it, to say we need DT's after just drafting two on the first day last season, and not giving them a chance to prove their mettle is hard to grasp as well. We may already have what you want on our team. Just because they were not pro bowl players thier first year doesn't mean we need more players up front. Shoot, Tuck wasn't all pro his first year with the Giants. Come to think of it, he wasn't this year either.

Ryan could be a good QB. That is what you hear about him. He could be a good QB. As you have said many times, we are a lot of players away from being a great football team. Next year, some college QB will emerge as being the top QB of the draft class. And his name will probably be among the top 5 picks. We will probably be picking there. And in 2 years there will be another top QB of the draft class. By your accounts, if we are as many players away as you say, we should still be in the top 5 or 10 picks, and maybe will have a chance to get a QBotF in that draft.

This team needs O-linemen in the worst way. 1st day O-linemen. Two or three of them. Then the need a year or so to gel, and prove their worth. That is something you guys seem to be unwilling to do with Croyle, Tank and Turk, give them time to prove themselves, so I imagine if we do draft O-line, you guys will throw them all under the bus shortly after thier first screw up in mini-camp.