Sac's 2012 End of Season Mock

[Saccopoo]

1. Peter Konz, C; Wisconsin: 6'3", 313 lbs.
- Yep, it's a ten pick reach at minimum, but Casey Wiegmann, while one of the best at his position during his career, is sniffing 40 and contemplated retirement before this past season. Rather than moving Hudson to center, keep him at guard (where he was a three time ACC first teamer & AP AA) and get a guy like Konz when you have the chance. He's big, physical and has the strength to handle even the biggest defensive tackles. I don't know if he's as good as Alex Mack at the same stage, but he reminds me a lot of him.



Other options would include OT's Riley Rieff or Jon Martin; ILB's Luke Kuechly or Dont'a Hightower (no Burfict as he hasn't shown the instincts to play at the next level or the capability to be anything other than a 15 yard personal foul waiting to happen).

2. Matt Reynolds, OT; BYU: 6'6", 330 lbs.
- Reynolds is a four year starter, and three year conference first teamer at left tackle. This also might be a bit of a reach, but he won't last beyond the second round and is most likely a better pro prospect than any offensive tackle beyond the top three. He's very athletic for a guy his size and could effectively play either side of the line. Plays nasty and through the whistle. Barry Richardson might be the worst starting offensive tackle in the NFL and the position needs to be addressed immediately. If the Chiefs don't get a shot at one of the top three in the first round, it needs to be addressed here - and Pioli has also shown the propensity to draft offensive line in the second round.



3. Derrek Wolfe, DT; Cincinatti: 6'5", 310 lbs.
- Initially, I would have loved the Chiefs to have picked up Wolfe in the 5th round, but after a monster 2011 season where he had 19.5 tackles for a loss and 9.5 sacks from the defensive tackle position for the Bearcats, he's going to be a riser, especially at the 3-4 defensive end spot where his length and speed to go along with his size are damn near prototype for the position. Jackson flashed a couple times in 2011 for the Chiefs, but Dorsey just looks like a "guy" out there and has a tendency to get absolutely engulfed by NFL guards.



4. Vick Ballard, RB; Mississippi State: 5'11", 215 lbs.
- With teams loading the box in an effort to stop him (because the Bulldogs didn't have much else offensively), Ballard still managed over 1000 yards on a 5.6 yards per carry. He's physically solid with good muscle mass and has very good vision. Is effective inside as well as out and is a good receiver. He went for 180 yards and two TD's in the Music City Bowl to close out his college career. He's a really good runnning back that would effectively fill the Thomas Jones spot in the lineup.



5. Tank Carder, MLB; TCU; 6'2", 240 lbs.
- With the two best blocking tight ends (Lutzenkirchen and Williams) going back to school for the 2013 season, this gets changed to linebacking stud Carder, who is the two-time MWC Defensive Player of the Year. Very instinctive and fundamentally sound, he was asked to do a lot in the middle playing in TCU's oddball 4-2-5 defense. Is effective in both coverage and filling the gaps on runs. Likes to put the big hit on carriers, but also plays smart. Is long and would be capable of carrying more weight to play inside in a 34. MVP of the 2011 Rosebowl when TCU beat a very good Wisconsin team. The guy can play some football.



6. Sean Cattouse, SS; California: 6'2", 215 lbs.
- With the loss of Berry at the start of the season, it highlighted the lack of depth that the Chiefs have at the strong safety position. McGraw has superb instincts but runs like he's in molasses. Sabby was a stopgap because of the injury. Cattouse has been solid for the Bears all season and one of the few bright spots on their defense. He's big, fast, likes to put the big hit on guys and has the tools to be an effective player with coaching. This is what you want in a backup strong safety.



7. Nick Provo, TE; Syracuse: 6'4", 250 lbs.
- Originally this was Caleb McSurdy, ILB; Montana, but with the pick of Carder in the fifth, another productive tight end on the roster is needed. Provo was First Team All-Big East in 2011 and set the Syracuse school record for career receptions for a tight end despite really only getting onto the field his junior and senior seasons. A Mackey semi-finalist in 2011.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by aturnis

It will certainly be the player who will have the most impact for the team. At our pick, that's probably Richardson. Defensive team, lacking at QB.

If Herm was still around who was all about BPA, I'd also agree but Pioli is all about "positional value" which coincides with the "right 53" crutch excuse when picking players.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

If Herm was still around who was all about BPA, I'd also agree but Pioli is all about "positional value" which coincides with the "right 53" crutch excuse when picking players.

Pioli is not just a "positional value" guy.

Safety at 5 is not positional value.

We've had this discussion on here too many times to count.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Pioli is not just a "positional value" guy.

Safety at 5 is not positional value.

We've had this discussion on here too many times to count.

"right 53", and Jared Mayo an ILB #7 doesn't have alot positional value but he fit.

[O.city]

What do you guys think about Mike Adams in the 2 to play RT?

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by O.city

What do you guys think about Mike Adams in the 2 to play RT?

I think Mike Adams goes in the first round. But if he's there in the second, its a no-brainer, imo.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

"right 53", and Jared Mayo an ILB #7 doesn't have alot positional value but he fit.

You're a ****ing idiot.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I viewed Albert as a guy that had a floor of an exceptional LG, but the ceiling of an all pro left tackle.

I understood that he was a project but that he had ELITE tools and was worth some patience.

All in all, I liked the pick.

Please, don't try to dig yourself deeper and make a comparison to Reynolds here.

Albert, for his first three seasons as a starting left tackle, had been downright atrocious.

He was okay this past season. Not good. Okay. Middle of the pack at best.

That's a far cry from "exceptional" to "all-pro."

And I'm not comparing him to Reynolds. Reynolds has four years of tape at the college level working at left tackle. (Those four years netted him Freshman First Team All-American and three years All-Conference First Team.) Albert was always going to be hypothetical project as an NFL tackle that has never come close to playing to his draft pick.

When it comes to the draft, I tend to be a little more conservative. I don't like pissing away a team's future on hypotheticals. Sometimes it works, but more often it doesn't. It's why I'd rather draft Konz (who is honestly one of the "elite" level players in this draft) than DeCastro and try to convert Hudson to guard. (Hudson was a better guard in college than DeCastro anyway.) It's why I wouldn't touch Tannehill with a ten foot pole in this draft. It's why I'd take Reynolds for the right tackle spot before any other guy after the first rounders. Reynolds will be able to immediately step in and produce at the ORT. Is he an elite prospect at left tackle? Nope. But he'll be a Day 1 starter for this team at RT.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Albert, for his first three seasons as a starting left tackle, had been downright atrocious.

He was okay this past season. Not good. Okay. Middle of the pack at best.

That's a far cry from "exceptional" to "all-pro."

And I'm not comparing him to Reynolds. Reynolds has four years of tape at the college level working at left tackle. (Those four years netted him Freshman First Team All-American and three years All-Conference First Team.) Albert was always going to be hypothetical project as an NFL tackle that has never come close to playing to his draft pick.

When it comes to the draft, I tend to be a little more conservative. I don't like pissing away a team's future on hypotheticals. Sometimes it works, but more often it doesn't. It's why I'd rather draft Konz (who is honestly one of the "elite" level players in this draft) than DeCastro and try to convert Hudson to guard. (Hudson was a better guard in college than DeCastro anyway.) It's why I wouldn't touch Tannehill with a ten foot pole in this draft. It's why I'd take Reynolds for the right tackle spot before any other guy after the first rounders. Reynolds will be able to immediately step in and produce at the ORT. Is he an elite prospect at left tackle? Nope. But he'll be a Day 1 starter for this team at RT.

Your anti-Albertism is at a hilarious level. Also, DeCastro is a far more elite prospect than Konz. I don't know where you come up with this shit, but its sad.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Albert, for his first three seasons as a starting left tackle, had been downright atrocious.

I've said it before, but you must be wearing these when you watch football:

[Nightfyre]

I think I will spend my 9000th post berating sacc's line play assessment.

[BossChief]

When I read shit like this:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Albert, for his first three seasons as a starting left tackle, had been downright atrocious.

He was okay this past season. Not good. Okay. Middle of the pack at best.

That's a far cry from "exceptional" to "all-pro."

And I'm not comparing him to Reynolds. Reynolds has four years of tape at the college level working at left tackle. (Those four years netted him Freshman First Team All-American and three years All-Conference First Team.) Albert was always going to be hypothetical project as an NFL tackle that has never come close to playing to his draft pick.

When it comes to the draft, I tend to be a little more conservative. I don't like pissing away a team's future on hypotheticals. Sometimes it works, but more often it doesn't. It's why I'd rather draft Konz (who is honestly one of the "elite" level players in this draft) than DeCastro and try to convert Hudson to guard. (Hudson was a better guard in college than DeCastro anyway.) It's why I wouldn't touch Tannehill with a ten foot pole in this draft. It's why I'd take Reynolds for the right tackle spot before any other guy after the first rounders. Reynolds will be able to immediately step in and produce at the ORT. Is he an elite prospect at left tackle? Nope. But he'll be a Day 1 starter for this team at RT.

All I can do is

[Bewbies]

DeCastro is elite, worth a high 1, not as good as Hudson, a mid/low 2.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Your anti-Albertism is at a hilarious level. Also, DeCastro is a far more elite prospect than Konz. I don't know where you come up with this shit, but its sad.

Konz, as a junior, is, by far and away, the best center in this draft. He is the best true center prospect since Alex Mack. That is elite.

DeCastro is a guard that played in front of one of the best college quarterbacks of recent memory. A guard.

When you consider that Jon Martin, Dave DeCastro, Colby Fleener are all being talked about as "best at their position" when playing in front of a guy like Luck, one has to consider if it's Luck that's really, really good, or is it all these other guys that are "elite" level players.

Case in point, remember when all those guys from North Carolina State's defensive line got drafted in the first couple of rounds a couple of years back? Yeah, those same guys that played on the same line with Mario Williams.

Oh, yeah. Also, for Chief fans, remember that Ryan Sims guy, who tore it up at the Senior Bowl and who played next to some guy named Julius Peppers?

Exactly.

Maybe it's Martin, Fleener and DeCastro that are "elite" and they've been carrying Luck for the past couple of seasons.

Yeah, that's it...Luck is just been riding on these guys coat tails and he's completely overrated.

And I'm not saying that DeCastro sucks. He's had a very nice career. It's just that it's hard to evaluate a guy like that when you have a guy like Luck as a quarterback.

As well, I'm curious why he never got moved over to the center position in college when that's what he played in high school and was so highly rated for at that stage.

[jd1020]

You could say the same thing about Konz who played infront of Russell Wilson, who passed for over 10 ypa, completed 72% of his passes, and threw for 33 TDs this year. And Montee Ball, who rushed for nearly 2000 yards and scored 33 TDs.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You could say the same thing about Konz who played infront of Russell Wilson, who passed for over 10 ypa, completed 72% of his passes, and threw for 33 TDs this year. And Montee Ball, who rushed for nearly 2000 yards and scored 33 TDs.

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