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Old 07-11-2012, 02:39 PM  
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KK wrong about success of ASG

Remember when we were awarded the ASG and KK said that KC will be a embarrassment? Then last summer a article in SI had a player talking about coming here and some players weren't sure. KK took off with that as ammo saying we shouldn't host the game?

Now he s saying that he expected it
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:39 PM   #211
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I think that people who come to a ballgame for only six or seven innings are terrible sports fans. Am I alone here?
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:41 PM   #212
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:43 PM   #213
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I think that people who come to a ballgame for only six or seven innings are terrible sports fans. Am I alone here?
I think if you go with the intention of only staying for that amount of time, you are certainly a questionable fan.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:45 PM   #214
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So the tailgating only counts if it is the same people doing it everyday?



So either way you have to call your client and DRIVE to the game. If you absolutely must go to a bar get something at the stadium. If you are more concerned with getting drinks, then go to a bar at P&L and watch the game on a TV.
Here's a typical conversation between Mr. Tegu and his friends at around 2:30 on a Thursday.

Hey Tegu, we're thinking about heading over to the Royals game after work. You in?

Of course. Want to get a bite to eat before the game?

Yeah, we'll just eat in the parking lot. Do you have your Weber and a bag of Kingsford in your trunk?

Always. You brought a cooler full of meat like you do every day just in case we decided to go to a game, right.

You know it.



That makes much more sense than:


Hey Saul, want to hit the game after work?

Sure, what time?

We're going to meet up at J Bucks and head over to the stadium around 6:30.

Perfect. I get off at 4:30. I'm going to run over to Band Box to drop off my dry cleaning, and I'll meet you at 5.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:46 PM   #215
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That's exactly what I do for evening games at Busch. You're already right next to the stadium, so it's not a huge deal to watch six or seven innings and leave.

You simply don't drive out to ****ing Raytown simply to watch two hours of baseball. It just doesn't make sense. People don't want to drive for an hour round trip, pay for parking, walk a mile through the parking lot, etc. to watch two hours of baseball. They have to go through all that because it's not like the stadium is right across the street from where they were going to be anyway. It's fifteen miles away from where they were going to be.

Dude, once again, the PL district is 10 minutes away. 8.4 miles. Stop acting like the Stadiums are so far from everything.

But yeah, give KC the same population as Chicago and they'll have better attendance than the Cubs. 14k more fans a game but 8 million more people in the city.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:52 PM   #216
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I think that people who come to a ballgame for only six or seven innings are terrible sports fans. Am I alone here?
One guy goes to five games a year, always on Friday or Saturday, and stays all nine innings every time.

One guy goes to twenty games a year. He leaves after six or seven innings during the fifteen week night games and stays all nine innings for the five weekend games.

Who is the shitty fan?
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:54 PM   #217
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Here's a typical conversation between Mr. Tegu and his friends at around 2:30 on a Thursday.

Hey Tegu, we're thinking about heading over to the Royals game after work. You in?

Of course. Want to get a bite to eat before the game?

Yeah, we'll just eat in the parking lot. Do you have your Weber and a bag of Kingsford in your trunk?

Always. You brought a cooler full of meat like you do every day just in case we decided to go to a game, right.

You know it.



That makes much more sense than:


Hey Saul, want to hit the game after work?

Sure, what time?

We're going to meet up at J Bucks and head over to the stadium around 6:30.

Perfect. I get off at 4:30. I'm going to run over to Band Box to drop off my dry cleaning, and I'll meet you at 5.
This is just stupid. If I don't work or live downtown, and I don't, (assuming a downtown stadium exists) this has absolutely no relevance to me or the majority of the population in any way. If I want to grill I can pick something up from my house or just buy food on the way, because either way I am still driving to the stadium, regardless of where it is.

Like I said, I see the advantages a downtown stadium has, but I also see the advantages of the K. The bottom line is that in our city as it is, the majority of people going to a Royals game have to drive there no matter where it is at.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:55 PM   #218
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Dude, once again, the PL district is 10 minutes away. 8.4 miles. Stop acting like the Stadiums are so far from everything.

But yeah, give KC the same population as Chicago and they'll have better attendance than the Cubs. 14k more fans a game but 8 million more people in the city.
If only there were another team in Chicago with a stadium in an area comparable to where Kaufman is located...then, we could see how their attendance compared to the team with a stadium in a vibrant urban setting.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:58 PM   #219
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I think that people who come to a ballgame for only six or seven innings are terrible sports fans. Am I alone here?
Most civil engineers (my wife's clients) are terrible sports fans.

Hell, most of the ones I've met have the personality of a ****ing doorknob.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:01 PM   #220
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This is just stupid. If I don't work or live downtown, and I don't, (assuming a downtown stadium exists) this has absolutely no relevance to me or the majority of the population in any way. If I want to grill I can pick something up from my house or just buy food on the way, because either way I am still driving to the stadium, regardless of where it is.

Like I said, I see the advantages a downtown stadium has, but I also see the advantages of the K. The bottom line is that in our city as it is, the majority of people going to a Royals game have to drive there no matter where it is at.
If you don't work downtown, you could still meet up for dinner at a restaurant next to the stadium. That's a lot better than stopping at hen house and buying cold cuts so that you can make sandwiches in the parking lot and call it tailgating.
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If only there were another team in Chicago with a stadium in an area comparable to where Kaufman is located...then, we could see how their attendance compared to the team with a stadium in a vibrant urban setting.
You realize there's teams that play outside of downtown that do well, and teams that play in downtown and don't, right?
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:06 PM   #222
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One guy goes to five games a year, always on Friday or Saturday, and stays all nine innings every time.

One guy goes to twenty games a year. He leaves after six or seven innings during the fifteen week night games and stays all nine innings for the five weekend games.

Who is the shitty fan?
Probably the second guy.
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Probably the second guy.
Let's say you need help moving from noon to three o'clock, and you call two friends. Both have to be somewhere at 2:30, but one shows up and helps out until 2:15, and the other guy doesn't come at all. Which one is the better friend?

I have taken my five year old to games and had to leave early to get him in bed before 11:00. I guess I'm a shitty fan.
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If you don't work downtown, you could still meet up for dinner at a restaurant next to the stadium. That's a lot better than stopping at hen house and buying cold cuts so that you can make sandwiches in the parking lot and call it tailgating.
Of course I could but that isn't what you said. You made it sound like we were all just getting off work and could step out of the office be there. Is it really that big of a deal to go to a restaraunt and then drive to the game? But the point remains that the vast majority of people that go to a Royals game, wherever the stadium is located, get there by driving. I don't think people in KC consider driving to places to be much of an inconvenience.

I can't help but notice you have begun arguing with yourself. Earlier you were saying the stadium would get more money because if it were downtown more people would come and spend more money on food and beverages in the stadium. But now you are saying people are going to go to the bar/restaraunts before and after the game if it were primely located, thus removing a significant amount of business from the vendors in the stadium.
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