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**Tribal Warfare** · 05-30-2013, 04:02 PM

Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday.

“He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’

Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers.

Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions.

Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released.

The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits.

That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief.

“He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’

Those intangibles were the unknown.

“I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work.

“When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’

In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs.

“It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’

The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans.

“It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’

Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice.

Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps.

“I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve.

“Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’

**RealSNR** · 06-03-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Skull-FU

What you don't seem to understand is that there is smoke and there is reality and that's my point. Reality is what you have after the picks are made and the smoke clears. It takes a lot more than one team to see reality.

This QB class sucked big floppy donkey balls and dick. It sounds like you bought into the hype. Truthfully, Kiper and Mayock probably knew this class was that bad but, talked guys up for ratings. Half of these draft shows are about QBs. It's a daily thing. Then, they hype the Gruden and Mooch specials to take it a step further.

You guys can sit here and make all the excuses in the world about how the talking heads compared this class to last years or whatever but, the scouts and GMs didn't do that. They watched the film and saw real problems that you probably didn't.

I'll leave it at that. This is a dumb argument.

What?

Go away, Rambobzo.

Sandy Vagina · 06-03-2013, 11:57 AM

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Alan Shope @AlanKCTV5

Watching practice, Alex Smith just seems to have something other Chiefs QB's haven't had in a while...focus??? Attention to detail?

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Andy Reid and John Dorsey bet the house on Alex Smith this offseason, so this is the sort of feedback you like to hear in OTAs. It's early and lots of guys get praised this time of year who will fail to impress later on. But Smith is doing all the right things early for the Chiefs.

source: arrowheadpride.com

ChiefsCountry · 06-03-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Skull-FU

What you don't seem to understand is that there is smoke and there is reality and that's my point. Reality is what you have after the picks are made and the smoke clears. It takes a lot more than one team to see reality.

This QB class sucked big floppy donkey balls and dick. It sounds like you bought into the hype. Truthfully, Kiper and Mayock probably knew this class was that bad but, talked guys up for ratings. Half of these draft shows are about QBs. It's a daily thing. Then, they hype the Gruden and Mooch specials to take it a step further.

You guys can sit here and make all the excuses in the world about how the talking heads compared this class to last years or whatever but, the scouts and GMs didn't do that. They watched the film and saw real problems that you probably didn't.

I'll leave it at that. This is a dumb argument.

Hi BlackBob welcome back douche. Next time don't use the same IP address.

Skull-FU · 06-03-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

What?

Go away, Rambobzo.

People were talking about it last week. - How this class was only labeled bad because last year's class was so good. The excuses are pretty bad Jack.

**Mav** · 06-03-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You are giving multiple passes. He's been in the league for how long?

I hate rehashing this over and over and over. What Pass did alex smith need once Harbaugh became the coach? He didn't, he played just fine. Better than fine actually. He played good. So, what kind of pass did he need? An injury, and a head coaches hand picked qb are the reason that Alex Smith is no longer a 49er. Nothing he did, or didn't do.

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If Smith converts a few 3rd downs and stops giving the ball to the Giants, he's still a 49er.
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He never gave the ball to the giants. the giants never one time in the second half moved the ball into scoring position without the help of two 49er turnovers....NOT ONCE.

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Maybe if Kyle Williams wouldn't have ****ed up they would have had a shot.

Him turning the ball over twice killed the 49ers. It absolutely killed them. His mistakes were inexcusable that day.

Fumbling the ball was one thing, but letting a punt bounce on the ground and hit your knee is ****ing stupid.

Oh and did I mention that both of those turnovers were in the fourth quarter?

Actually, the second one, was in overtime. But just the same.

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you just quoted a niners fan that blames kapernick for the loss
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Whoa whoa whoa. Wait, so its COOL to blame alex smith for the NFCCG loss, but not cool to blame the super bowl on Kaep? His turnover to ed reed wasn't a reason? Or his inability to get the ball in from the 7 in 4 tries. Neither one of those are REASONS? But yet, Alex Smith who was not even involved in the decision in overtime is THE REASON. Yeah. Shut up Jason. You are being a bitch, and you know it.

If Alex Smith is the reason the 49ers lost the NFCCG then Kaep has to bear the responsibility of losing the super bowl. The defense did their job, got him the ball with time remaining, and he couldn't convert. People seem to forget, that Kaepernick, for as well as he played in the second half, PLAYED LIKE ****ING SHIT in the first half, putting the 49ers in their huge hole to begin with.

But seriously, lets just let that go right?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-03-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I hate rehashing this over and over and over. What Pass did alex smith need once Harbaugh became the coach? He didn't, he played just fine. Better than fine actually. He played good. So, what kind of pass did he need? An injury, and a head coaches hand picked qb are the reason that Alex Smith is no longer a 49er. Nothing he did, or didn't do.

He never gave the ball to the giants. the giants never one time in the second half moved the ball into scoring position without the help of two 49er turnovers....NOT ONCE.

Actually, the second one, was in overtime. But just the same.

Whoa whoa whoa. Wait, so its COOL to blame alex smith for the NFCCG loss, but not cool to blame the super bowl on Kaep? His turnover to ed reed wasn't a reason? Or his inability to get the ball in from the 7 in 4 tries. Neither one of those are REASONS? But yet, Alex Smith who was not even involved in the decision in overtime is THE REASON. Yeah. Shut up Jason. You are being a bitch, and you know it.

If Alex Smith is the reason the 49ers lost the NFCCG then Kaep has to bear the responsibility of losing the super bowl. The defense did their job, got him the ball with time remaining, and he couldn't convert. People seem to forget, that Kaepernick, for as well as he played in the second half, PLAYED LIKE ****ING SHIT in the first half, putting the 49ers in their huge hole to begin with.

But seriously, lets just let that go right?

Yeah, I'd still take Kap over Alice.

BlackHelicopters · 06-03-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Yeah, I'd still take Kap over Alice.

**Mav** · 06-03-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Yeah, I'd still take Kap over Alice.

I would as well......

**SAUTO** · 06-03-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I hate rehashing this over and over and over. What Pass did alex smith need once Harbaugh became the coach? He didn't, he played just fine. Better than fine actually. He played good. So, what kind of pass did he need? An injury, and a head coaches hand picked qb are the reason that Alex Smith is no longer a 49er. Nothing he did, or didn't do.

He never gave the ball to the giants. the giants never one time in the second half moved the ball into scoring position without the help of two 49er turnovers....NOT ONCE.

Actually, the second one, was in overtime. But just the same.

Whoa whoa whoa. Wait, so its COOL to blame alex smith for the NFCCG loss, but not cool to blame the super bowl on Kaep? His turnover to ed reed wasn't a reason? Or his inability to get the ball in from the 7 in 4 tries. Neither one of those are REASONS? But yet, Alex Smith who was not even involved in the decision in overtime is THE REASON. Yeah. Shut up Jason. You are being a bitch, and you know it.

If Alex Smith is the reason the 49ers lost the NFCCG then Kaep has to bear the responsibility of losing the super bowl. The defense did their job, got him the ball with time remaining, and he couldn't convert. People seem to forget, that Kaepernick, for as well as he played in the second half, PLAYED LIKE ****ING SHIT in the first half, putting the 49ers in their huge hole to begin with.

But seriously, lets just let that go right?

I actually agree about kapernick in the super bowl.

Dumbass
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**SAUTO** · 06-03-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I would as well......

The sad thing is I would too.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-03-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

The sad thing is I would too.
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There's nothing sad about it. It's called "using the brain God gave you".

**SAUTO** · 06-03-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

There's nothing sad about it. It's called "using the brain God gave you".

Yes there is.

We traded for the other guy
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-03-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Yes there is.

We traded for the other guy
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I'm sory, the FO just doesn't exist in my world anymore.

**Mav** · 06-03-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I actually agree about kapernick in the super bowl.

Dumbass
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By the way. I don't solely blame Kaepernick for the Super Bowl loss. But I see how it can easily be placed on his shoulders.

The 49ers lost that game because Kaep was star struck in the first half. he played like shit, the niners defense got destroyed by Joe Flacco, and we opened up the second half with a kick off return for a touchdown, not to mention that some how, jacoby jones gets behind both whitner and culliver and is wide open. My list of blame goes around to the entire ****ing team. Never to one guy. just like the nfccg, was to be blamed on everyone. Kyle Williams sucked, Carlos Rogers got destroyed and embarrassed by Victor Cruz in the first half, we couldn't convert a 3rd down at all, the receivers were garbage, alex smith was garbage, the only player who played well in that game, was Vernon Davis.

Im not short sited enough to say that one person cost us either of those games.

-King- · 06-03-2013, 02:15 PM

Here are the 3rd down plays in the 49ers Giants game:

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3rd and 4 at SF 39 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass incomplete short middle to F.Gore (L.Joseph).

3rd and 14 at SF 30 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass incomplete deep left to K.Williams (A.Ross).

3rd and 5 at NYG 47 (Shotgun) Alex Smith scrambles left guard to NYG 43 for 4 yards (J.Pierre-Paul).

3rd and 9 at SF 17 (Shotgun) Alex Smith scrambles up the middle to SF 20 for 3 yards (J.Tuck).

3rd and 6 at NYG 49 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass incomplete short left to D.Walker (J.Williams).

3rd and 6 at SF 26 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass short right to F.Gore to SF 30 for 4 yards (J.Williams).

3rd and 1 at NYG 46 A.Dixon right guard to NYG 46 for no gain (C.Blackburn, L.Joseph).

3rd and 5 at NYG 10 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass short right to M.Crabtree to NYG 7 for 3 yards (C.Webster).

3rd and 7 at SF 38 (Shotgun) Alex Smith sacked at SF 28 for -10 yards (sack split by M.Kiwanuka and O.Umenyiora).

3rd and 10 at SF 29 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass incomplete deep right to D.Walker.

3rd and 12 at SF 20 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass short right to V.Davis to SF 31 for 11 yards (K.Phillips). Caught at SF 31. 0-yds YAC

Anyone still want to say that the lack of conversions weren't his fault?

05-30-2013, 04:02 PM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $582813	Teicher:Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday. “He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’ Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers. Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions. Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released. The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits. That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief. “He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’ Those intangibles were the unknown. “I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work. “When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’ In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs. “It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’ The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans. “It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’ Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice. Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps. “I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve. “Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’
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