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Old 07-13-2013, 09:16 AM  
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Who's your guy in the 4th quarter when losing to an above .500 team: Alex or Aa

I pulled this link off of Reddit thinking this would be a great source of friendly banter and enlightened discussion. Who's more clutch in a comeback against winning teams? You want Captain Checkdown II- Electric Boogaloo or you want the Discount Double Check guy?



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Old 07-13-2013, 05:25 PM   #211
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He has a point.. If he goes off for 18tds 12ints and 2900 yards and the Chiefs win 7 games quite a few fans will think that is amazing..
Exactly right.

Because we saw the same thing happen in 2010 with Cassel, after dinking and dunking some of the worst teams in the league to death.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:26 PM   #212
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No...I have to poke fun at the comment.

A veteran coach acquired a veteran QB and now we have to act like everything is a big unknown? How can we possibly extrapolate any conclusions based on the bodies of work from these two men?

It's a flawed approach from the start, and it certainly reminds me of how Cassel was shielded by the red-coated masses when he first came to KC.
I was actually naive back then and learned a lot from the
Cassel/Pioli/Crennel trifecta of suck.

Still dont hate Smith and think we win now.

How people react to these moves doesn't change my personal opinion.

I'm sure it goes both ways.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:27 PM   #213
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I'd be extremely disappointed with anything less than 3500 yards and 25 TDs from Alex Smith.

Is that unrealistic?
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:27 PM   #214
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Exactly right.

Because we saw the same thing happen in 2010 with Cassel, after dinking and dunking some of the worst teams in the league to death.
As I asked who's opinion are we discussing the general fan opinion or CP?

If we are talking CP then I call bullshit, big pile of it.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:29 PM   #215
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I'd be extremely disappointed with anything less than 3500 yards and 25 TDs from Alex Smith.

Is that unrealistic?
No but its not 5,000 & 40 /Clay
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:29 PM   #216
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No but its not 5,000 & 40 /Clay
No it's not.

And we will lose when we face that type of QB.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:31 PM   #217
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I'd be extremely disappointed with anything less than 3500 yards and 25 TDs from Alex Smith.

Is that unrealistic?
For what we paid for him, and the implication of paying that much (ability to draft a franchise QB later) no, that's not at all unrealistic.

Then again, even Cassel dinked and dunked himself to those numbers, and we saw what happened.

With what we paid, we should get 4,000/30 and the ability to keep the defense honest with downfield passing.

Based on his history, don't see it happening.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:35 PM   #218
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As I asked who's opinion are we discussing the general fan opinion or CP?

If we are talking CP then I call bullshit, big pile of it.
Call bullshit all you want - this place was full homer that season.

Christ, even I thought they had a chance to beat Baltimore.

(And I still think they would have if they would have kept running the ball instead of inexplicably start slinging it all over)
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:39 PM   #219
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For what we paid for him, and the implication of paying that much (ability to draft a franchise QB later) no, that's not at all unrealistic.

Then again, even Cassel dinked and dunked himself to those numbers, and we saw what happened.

With what we paid, we should get 4,000/30 and the ability to keep the defense honest with downfield passing.

Based on his history, don't see it happening.
Based on what I've been reading about AR, the Chiefs offense will be looking down field more often. This I like and I'm willing to give Smith the benefit of the doubt regardless of his history.
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I was actually naive back then and learned a lot from the
Cassel/Pioli/Crennel trifecta of suck.

Still dont hate Smith and think we win now.

How people react to these moves doesn't change my personal opinion.

I'm sure it goes both ways.
Yeah, and I'm not one to start personally insulting someone for having an opinion different from my own. However, I think it's amazing how some try to treat established QBs like rookies, ostensibly making it impossible to hold anyone accountable for anything.

Alex Smith is 29 years old. He should be in the ****ing prime of his career right now. It's go time for him and the Chiefs, and the fact that playoffs (playoffs!) are considered "lofty" expectations just goes to show how ****ing traumatized our fanbase has become.

Has anyone even raised the possibility of contending for a...wait for it...championship? I mean, for ****, that sounds so ridiculous that it isn't funny. Sadly.
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Alex Smith is 29 years old. He should be in the ****ing prime of his career right now. It's go time for him and the Chiefs.
According to PFF, we have a top 10 QB.

He should be able to overcome anything, including a bad defense.

LET'S ROLL!
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Yeah, and I'm not one to start personally insulting someone for having an opinion different from my own. However, I think it's amazing how some try to treat established QBs like rookies, ostensibly making it impossible to hold anyone accountable for anything.

Alex Smith is 29 years old. He should be in the ****ing prime of his career right now. It's go time for him and the Chiefs, and the fact that playoffs (playoffs!) are considered "lofty" expectations just goes to show how ****ing traumatized our fanbase has become.

Has anyone even raised the possibility of contending for a...wait for it...championship? I mean, for ****, that sounds so ridiculous that it isn't funny. Sadly.
I agree. I want the Chiefs to come out ripping heads. 6-0 going into the Texans game. Bang Bang.
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Yeah, and I'm not one to start personally insulting someone for having an opinion different from my own. However, I think it's amazing how some try to treat established QBs like rookies, ostensibly making it impossible to hold anyone accountable for anything.

Alex Smith is 29 years old. He should be in the ****ing prime of his career right now. It's go time for him and the Chiefs, and the fact that playoffs (playoffs!) are considered "lofty" expectations just goes to show how ****ing traumatized our fanbase has become.

Has anyone even raised the possibility of contending for a...wait for it...championship? I mean, for ****, that sounds so ridiculous that it isn't funny. Sadly.
The possibility off a championship with AS hasn't been raised because no one, even the AS homers think he's capable of winning one.

He'll, look at this thread. There are people that think playoffs alone are asking too much.
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I agree. I want the Chiefs to come out ripping heads. 6-0 going into the Texans game. Bang Bang.
I want to titty**** Kate Upton.
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The possibility off a championship with AS hasn't been raised because no one, even the AS homers think he's capable of winning one.
I think this is ultimately true, which is why the acquisition at the price the Chiefs paid was asinine.

I would have been great with acquiring AS. Perfect with it. But I wouldn't have paid more than a 4th-round pick. Period.

And now people will argue that this compensation package wouldn't have finalized the deal. OK. And?
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