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Old 06-19-2014, 05:47 PM  
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2014-2015 NBA off-season Lebron goes home thread.

I will update this when the schedule is announced in a couple of weeks, but I will open with the new uniforms for the Charlotte Hornets below.


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Old 07-19-2014, 11:50 AM   #2326
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If Minnesota is not happy with a deal of Waiters/Bennett and multiple 1st rounds picks (and I understand why they wouldn't be), then sit tight and see what happens.
Just because LaMarcus Aldridge re-signed with Portland doesn't mean Love will do the same with Minnesota. In fact, I highly doubt it.

And unless you threw Dieng out there just to prove a point that Wiggins is more valuable than I'm making him out to be, that's pretty uninformed. A player like Dieng isn't somebody you just trade away just so you can get Andrew Wiggins.
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:59 AM   #2327
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Dieng with Love?

Who are the Cavs going to trade to pull that off? Dieng would be a prime building chip for me if I'm Flip Saunders.

Dieng's value is far higher than Waiters, Thompson.
Indeed. They would have to give up much more than what they are currently offering. More players, picks and even taking back a bad contract to make it happen. I just think the Cavs really need to shore up their center position and if they are making the move for Love, go all in and give what you can to get Dieng as well. Honestly, what I really want is for the Cavs to sit tight for a while to see what they really have in Bennett and Wiggins before they rush to complete a trade. I don't see Love being moved right away and I think the Cavs are just bidding against themselves. Many local reporters (Sam Amico) are saying that the Cavs are not open to including Wiggins in a deal and that it's just national people and Minnesota reporters that are putting this misinformation out there. Don't know for sure.

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Old 07-19-2014, 12:09 PM   #2328
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Just because LaMarcus Aldridge re-signed with Portland doesn't mean Love will do the same with Minnesota. In fact, I highly doubt it.

And unless you threw Dieng out there just to prove a point that Wiggins is more valuable than I'm making him out to be, that's pretty uninformed. A player like Dieng isn't somebody you just trade away just so you can get Andrew Wiggins.
I don't think Love would return to Minnesota under any circumstances. And that's really unfortunate, because small market teams like Cleveland and Minnesota deserve to have star players too. Of course if my team can acquire him (Love) at a bargain I'd gladly add him if that puts us in the drivers seat to win a title. I'm probably over valuing Wiggins, he's not even played an NBA game yet and I'm somewhat hesitant to trade him for one of the best 4's in the NBA. I just hate to give up a great wing defender in Wiggins, who I think will be a great 2 way player in about 3 years. Luckily I don't have to make this decision. I know Dieng is a solid rim protector, I know the Cavs would have to add to the package of what has been reported (Wiggins/Bennett and multiple 1st's for Love). I would add more picks (players-don't know who) and take back that horrible Martin contact to attempt to add Dieng, doubt that would be enough though. He has great potential and has a cap friendly contract.
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Old 07-19-2014, 01:58 PM   #2329
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I'd just wait until the deadline when we won't have to greatly overpay. If they demand Wiggins we should demand Dieng.
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Old 07-19-2014, 02:07 PM   #2330
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Cavs don't need Love when Marcus Fizer is available.
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Old 07-19-2014, 02:13 PM   #2331
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I'd just wait until the deadline when we won't have to greatly overpay. If they demand Wiggins we should demand Dieng.
The best 4 in the game and a second-year big who proved he's got a promising career ahead of him for a rookie who hasn't played a single ****ing game yet and draft picks.

You are the dumbest mother****er on the planet.
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Old 07-19-2014, 02:29 PM   #2332
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The best 4 in the game and a second-year big who proved he's got a promising career ahead of him for a rookie who hasn't played a single ****ing game yet and draft picks.

You are the dumbest mother****er on the planet.
Having seen enough of the 3 dumb dumbs on here and the countless idiots on Miami Heat boards - Cavs fans in general are dumb asses.
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Old 07-19-2014, 02:59 PM   #2333
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Old 07-19-2014, 03:03 PM   #2334
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I'd just wait until the deadline when we won't have to greatly overpay. If they demand Wiggins we should demand Dieng.
You're trolling. There's no other way around it.

Love is a top 10 player in the NBA and it's not debatable. Asking for more on the Cavs end is laughable.

And no, at the trade deadline, you will have to pony up more. You're not paying less then. Teams will just rent Love for 3 months and go all out.
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:12 PM   #2335
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Great. That doesn't change the fact that his contract is expiring, he's made it known he wants out, and he's walking from Minnesota regardless. You guys are reeruned if you don't know that brings down the trade value. Maybe do some research and see what guys like Howard and Harden were traded for?
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:27 PM   #2336
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Great. That doesn't change the fact that his contract is expiring, he's made it known he wants out, and he's walking from Minnesota regardless. You guys are reeruned if you don't know that brings down the trade value. Maybe do some research and see what guys like Howard and Harden were traded for?
Yes, we are all the ones that are reeruned. It's not you.

It doesn't bring his trade value down when he has multiple suitors. And he'll have more at the trade deadline.

Howard was traded for actually a lot of value, but I don't expect you to know shit about the NBA.

Harden was an absurd trade and using that as some benchmark in a negotiation is absurd.

You're really showing your ass in this thread.
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But the Cavs have the most to gain and the most to lose by acquiring Love so it's smart to make Saunders force that team to overpay or get market value versus maybe a team that wants to rent him for 3 months at the trade deadline if they feel they are close to make a run in the playoffs. That team wouldnt have to pay as much but he's not going to just give him to the Cavs for their shit overrated players.
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:36 PM   #2339
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But the Cavs have the most to gain and the most to lose by acquiring Love so it's smart to make Saunders force that team to overpay or get market value versus maybe a team that wants to rent him for 3 months at the trade deadline if they feel they are close to make a run in the playoffs. That team wouldnt have to pay as much but he's not going to just give him to the Cavs for their shit overrated players.
I just don't see where the Cavs pricetag would ever go down. Another team, maybe the price would be less, but Flip Saunders isn't going to basically hand Cleveland a super team just for Dion Waiters and shitbag Tristan Thompson.
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You are the dumbest mother****er on the planet.
True that. What a ****ing buffoon. Just give the damn beaker for Love already and the Cavs laugh their way to the bank. No way should the Wolves take the turds his homer ass suggests.
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