Football Pats Cheating Comfirmed - Page 156

PizzaDoughz · 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

BucEyedPea · 01-30-2015, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

You're STILL on that Jets conspiracy? A franchise that can't even wipe their asses correctly is framing one of the most detail-obsessed franchises in the league for cheating... yeah, that's completely logical.

No, that's not a conspiracy. It's about not being able to be objective and impeaching the person who exaggerated what happened. A conspiracy involves more than one person engaged in committing a crime. Look it up.

If you can't use words properly, how are you to be taken seriously in an argument?

BucEyedPea · 01-30-2015, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Totally credible link.

Great news sources I know use gifs and vines in their stories.

So you can't refute it. Got it.

I don't see what being a right-wing leaning source has to do with a non political topic though.

I posted another link earlier which reported that not all the balls were as under inflated as previously reported, only one, but not who originally claimed that.

Amnorix · 01-30-2015, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

You're STILL on that Jets conspiracy? A franchise that can't even wipe their asses correctly is framing one of the most detail-obsessed franchises in the league for cheating... yeah, that's completely logical.

errr...no. A guy with a bone to chew with Belichick may be using his new position of power to leak information that makes things look worse and causes a bigger stink, and/or handling things in a way intentionally designed to make something look bad/worse (i.e. the balls are deflated by 2.0 PSI, oh wait, more like 1.0!).

BucEyedPea · 01-30-2015, 01:16 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...iots-football/

NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino confirmed today that the NFL didn’t log the exact PSI of each football. [ I asked earlier that these would need to be known as a key to the case.] According to Blandino, when officials inspect footballs to see if they’re properly inflated, they simply approve them or disapprove them.

In other words, although the Patriots did play with under-inflated footballs, the NFL hasn’t kept detailed records of whether those footballs were slightly under-inflated (which could be the result of a change in temperature) or significantly under-inflated (which would indicate that someone purposely let air out of the footballs).

Or I'd add if they were inflated to the 12.5 minimum and how many of them?

Amnorix · 01-30-2015, 01:17 PM

Doug Kyed ‏@DougKyedNESN 15m15 minutes ago
Goodell says "We don't know enough to know if there was even a violation" on DeflateGate.

Phil Perry ‏@PhilAPerry 18m18 minutes ago
Goodell: "We don't know enough in this investigation" as to who's responsible for deflations, "or whether there was even an infraction."

Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe 14m14 minutes ago
Have officials ever measured football air pressure in a game before the AFCCG?

Goodell: "I don't know."

**morphius** · 01-30-2015, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude, are you just trolling me? It's Brady's\Pats' job to inflate the balls to a pressure allowed by rules. It's the Ref's job to validate that was done. It is not Brady's job to "make the ball comfortable" if that means cheating to do so.

This scenario is a bit more like a teacher/student, you turn in the homework, and I verify that it is right. If the teacher doesn't count something as wrong, the student will assume everything is okay.

For me personally, when I have deflated basketballs after over filling them, I don't always measure how much I let out and just say, okay that feels alright. So really, a lot of this has seen like much ado about nothing to me personally.

MagicHef · 01-30-2015, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Per this report it was NFL official Mike Kensil, formerly of the Jet's front office until 2006, who lied about how much the balls were deflated originally.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/26/di...ly-were-video/

There is zero evidence that the 2 psi report came from Kensil.

BucEyedPea · 01-30-2015, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

There is zero evidence that the 2 psi report came from Kensil.

Link?

Hootie · 01-30-2015, 01:24 PM

Seems like the cover up is fully underway! Congrats Pats fans, cheaters really do prosper!

BucEyedPea · 01-30-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Seems like the cover up is fully underway! Congrats Pats fans, cheaters really do prosper!

Prove it.

Sounds like too many gaps to have enough evidence and the haters wishes are not coming true. So, this is just your opinion.

Hootie · 01-30-2015, 01:28 PM

Yeah, definitely. Patriots should definitely get the benefit of the doubt IMO since they're first time offenders. Oh. Wait.

Sully · 01-30-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Link?

Anyone else, and i'd think this was a joke. A decently funny one.
I see you post it, and I damn near break my hand hitting my forehead.

MagicHef · 01-30-2015, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Link?

What? You want me to link to something showing a lack of evidence?

You posted a poorly written article where the author jumps to the conclusion that Kensil supplied the 2 psi report, and intentionally lied about it. I'm just saying that there's nothing anywhere except this guy's dreams that shows that those numbers came from Kensil. We still don't even know if the "11 balls low by 2 psi", or the "1 ball 2 psi low, 10 may be closer to 1 psi low" is correct.

BucEyedPea · 01-30-2015, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

What? You want me to link to something showing a lack of evidence?

You posted a poorly written article where the author jumps to the conclusion that Kensil supplied the 2 psi report, and intentionally lied about it. I'm just saying that there's nothing anywhere except this guy's dreams that shows that those numbers came from Kensil. We still don't even know if the "11 balls low by 2 psi", or the "1 ball 2 psi low, 10 may be closer to 1 psi low" is correct.

I am expecting you to back up your own claim with a link to a report saying he is not behind it. I am willing to change my mind on what my article claimed about Kensil, if you can provide a report that says otherwise. We already know it's a fact he is in charge of the investigation, no? Or the driving force? At least that's what SI reports. http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/26/nfl...il-deflategate

Also, why is it okay for your side to claim the balls were "intentionally" deflated with no proof or impugning Brady as a liar just because of BB's past actions?
It comes across as the pot calling the kettle black.

As to how many balls were 2 psi low or 1 psi low, I already posted and linked different sources earlier in the thread saying that it was closer to 1 psi for most of the balls with 1 ball being 2 psi lower.

**petegz28** · 01-30-2015, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

This scenario is a bit more like a teacher/student, you turn in the homework, and I verify that it is right. If the teacher doesn't count something as wrong, the student will assume everything is okay.

For me personally, when I have deflated basketballs after over filling them, I don't always measure how much I let out and just say, okay that feels alright. So really, a lot of this has seen like much ado about nothing to me personally.

So you are saying then nothing happened AFTER the Ref looked at the ball?

01-20-2015, 10:38 PM
PizzaDoughz - Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $10017622	Pats Cheating Comfirmed According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick Discuss.
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01-30-2015, 01:16 PM	#2329
BucEyedPea Gimme My Berries Back! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: None of your business Casino cash: $2959963	http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...iots-football/ NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino confirmed today that the NFL didn’t log the exact PSI of each football. [ I asked earlier that these would need to be known as a key to the case.] According to Blandino, when officials inspect footballs to see if they’re properly inflated, they simply approve them or disapprove them. In other words, although the Patriots did play with under-inflated footballs, the NFL hasn’t kept detailed records of whether those footballs were slightly under-inflated (which could be the result of a change in temperature) or significantly under-inflated (which would indicate that someone purposely let air out of the footballs). Or I'd add if they were inflated to the 12.5 minimum and how many of them?
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01-30-2015, 01:17 PM	#2330
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	Doug Kyed ‏@DougKyedNESN 15m15 minutes ago Goodell says "We don't know enough to know if there was even a violation" on DeflateGate. Phil Perry ‏@PhilAPerry 18m18 minutes ago Goodell: "We don't know enough in this investigation" as to who's responsible for deflations, "or whether there was even an infraction." Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe 14m14 minutes ago Have officials ever measured football air pressure in a game before the AFCCG? Goodell: "I don't know." __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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01-30-2015, 01:24 PM	#2334
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Seems like the cover up is fully underway! Congrats Pats fans, cheaters really do prosper!
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01-30-2015, 01:28 PM	#2336
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah, definitely. Patriots should definitely get the benefit of the doubt IMO since they're first time offenders. Oh. Wait.
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