Elder Scrolls V

[Fire Me Boy!]

So the guys at Bethesda let it slip a few months ago that Elder Scrolls V was in the works for 2010, and a friend said he read a possible release in 2009... I'm looking for the article, but I'm friggin' STOKED about a new Elder Scrolls game coming out in the next 12-18 months!!!

I think they can learn a lot with the successes and failures of their previous landmark releases like Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3 and make ESV an absolute KICK ASS game!

[cookster50]

Finally decided to buy this from GMG for a five spot. Quick question, is it like morrowind(I think this was the lame one, could be wrong) where the enemies are always a similar level as you or is it an awesome game where monsters are all different levels, this you have to stay out of some areas until you are higher leveled?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by cookster50

Finally decided to buy this from GMG for a five spot. Quick question, is it like morrowind(I think this was the lame one, could be wrong) where the enemies are always a similar level as you or is it an awesome game where monsters are all different levels, this you have to stay out of some areas until you are higher leveled?

Yeah, some monsters will kill you instantly at low levels.

[Wallcrawler]

The only issue I had with Skyrim was that magic damage never scaled up properly. You get a few little buffs here and there through perks, but your magic will never be able to touch the damage of a properly blacksmithed weapon.

You pretty much have to go all out with enchantment so that you can enchant your gear to where you can have 2 different types of spell cost absolutely zero magicka to cast. If you get to high level gameplay and your fireballs and whatnot are sapping magicka from your bar, you're never going to kill anything very easily.

Considering the enemy AI is nothing more than straight up zerging you and swinging away, its a real pain in the ass to play as a pure mage.

Using a combination of Alchemy and Enchantment, you can wear gear that boosts your blacksmithing, combined with a potion that boosts blacksmithing further, and you can get an average run of the mill sword that does around 700 damage per hit, where I think my most powerful spell only reaches around 250.

You never really reach "Ultimate Sorcerer Badass" status in Skyrim. Everything takes so many damn spells to defeat, its kind of a bummer.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Skyrim Special Edition (remastered for PS4, XB1, PC) coming in 10/28.

[hometeam]

Money grab by bethesda. Targeted at Console users as PC users have had a game better than the remaster since the original came out. (mods)

PC users that own the full game already, get a free copy. This is done so that modders wont just stick to the 'old' version, and instead, have some incentive to mod on the new version.

This allows Bethesda to port some of these mods to consoles, which they do via there own distribution system (which is DWARFED by nexus and steam) so that they can market to these customers, using the manpower of volunteers who distribute that work with no caveats and for free via other platforms.

I'm all for making money and all, but this is a straight up shit money grab and people are going to fall for it. Its all based around developers owning the consoles ecosystem so that they can suck as much money as possible from those users. These users often do not know better, as they are constantly fed misinformation from Game Publishers, Hardware makers, and game media that all have vested interest in keeping them uninformed.

Bethesda has been going the way of EA and Ubisoft for several years, and here we are.

GG.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by hometeam

Money grab by bethesda. Targeted at Console users as PC users have had a game better than the remaster since the original came out. (mods)

PC users that own the full game already, get a free copy. This is done so that modders wont just stick to the 'old' version, and instead, have some incentive to mod on the new version.

This allows Bethesda to port some of these mods to consoles, which they do via there own distribution system (which is DWARFED by nexus and steam) so that they can market to these customers, using the manpower of volunteers who distribute that work with no caveats and for free via other platforms.

I'm all for making money and all, but this is a straight up shit money grab and people are going to fall for it. Its all based around developers owning the consoles ecosystem so that they can suck as much money as possible from those users. These users often do not know better, as they are constantly fed misinformation from Game Publishers, Hardware makers, and game media that all have vested interest in keeping them uninformed.

Bethesda has been going the way of EA and Ubisoft for several years, and here we are.

GG.

I am always entertained when you rant about these things, because I feel the same way you do. I just have this business side of me, where I live in the real world every day, that pushes me back from the ledge to go on the same rants.

I wish every game company would follow the line of making things better and being more transparent about certain decisions, but they never will be. They are in the business of making money first, entertaining us second, and giving a shit about the end user after they buy the product about 999,999th.

The same thing happens in every platform with every company. Valve is such a huge problem child with such shit. Look at Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. Or any version of any multi-player they have right now. Cheats are rampant. There are so many holes in their coding that never get addressed to eliminate cheating. They develop VAC as an anti-cheat software that doesn't work. They develop an "Overwatch" system to allow experienced gamers the chance to detect hackers for them, that doesn't really work all that well because users have figured out how to not cheat just enough to circumvent the rules that dictate a player actually getting overwatched.

Why not investigate the scripts and close the holes in the code? Because banning a user basically means that this user will buy yet another copy of the game, and a new set of useless gun skins for said account, and continue the money making cycle. There is money in at least allowing "some" cheating to occur that can be caught at some point.

That's on top of the shit you've already mentioned as problems with gaming right now. And, according to everything I've seen from Valve and other developers, they are going to continue to focus as much as they can on the social/multiplayer aspect of gaming with ongoing DLC content packs, and less on the single-player one-and-done games. So, the problem isn't going away, its going to get way worse.

[hometeam]

Yea.. I guess i'm just a cranky old man now :P

I just don't like seeing 200 dollar games, obvious low-effort money grabs, and the like.
It hurts the experience as a whole. Hell, this remastered Skyrim doesn't look half as much as my heavily modded current PC playthrough. (Check my steam, I been killing Skyrim lately while waiting for Overwatch groups :P)

Luckily there are still a lot of good game studios out there as well, so maybe i'm not a full blown dinosaur just yet~

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by hometeam

Money grab by bethesda. Targeted at Console users as PC users have had a game better than the remaster since the original came out. (mods)

Ok, so I take it you prefer PC games. Great.

For those [insert description of choice] that game on a console, why shouldn't we want Bethesda to release an updated version for the Xbox One?

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Ok, so I take it you prefer PC games. Great.

For those [insert description of choice] that game on a console, why shouldn't we want Bethesda to release an updated version for the Xbox One?

Because its another 60 bucks (at the least) to shell out for the same game? Did you look at the 'upgrade'? its minimal at best.

They are selling you shit you already have and laughing.

But sure, people will buy it, people will enjoy it. Doesn't mean its not a low effort re-hash that when it sells takes away from reasons to innovate etc.

They own your hardware, so they pigeonhole you into having a bad version in the first place, then 'upgrade' it and sell you another slightly less bad version, and since they own your hardware still. You have no choice. Why should they actually try?

[Gonzo]

I waited for skyrim to become a "best of PS3" game before playing it because I just didn't have much interest. I put in roughly 30 hours and decided it was just ok. Now then, if they'd announced a new edition I would've been a bit more interested. This is just a cash grab. The graphics on fallout 4 weren't all that much better than 3 and it was obvious the game was initially going to be a last gen... I'll expect the same here.
Bethesda needs to pull their heads out of their asses.

[Chief Pagan]

I don't feel a need to get games on day 1, so I would probably wait for the price to fall.

I haven't seen how much of an upgrade it is. However, I never did any of the DLC on the XBOX 360, so it might be more of an upgrade for me. If I pay $60 for a game that I enjoy for 20 hours, I consider that pretty cheap entertainment.

Sure, instead of re-hashing this, I wish they would come out with an awesome next version of Elder Scrolls and I wish they would have worked on ES instead of fallout 4 (I've burned out on the fallout series), and while I am at it, I wish the Chiefs had a future Hall of Fame QB.

I tried playing Skyrim on the PC and didn't like it. I have a job where I have to be fairly tech savvy, but I don't want to spend my limited gaming time trying to figure out which mod is conflicting with which graphic option.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

I don't feel a need to get games on day 1, so I would probably wait for the price to fall.

I haven't seen how much of an upgrade it is. However, I never did any of the DLC on the XBOX 360, so it might be more of an upgrade for me. If I pay $60 for a game that I enjoy for 20 hours, I consider that pretty cheap entertainment.

Sure, instead of re-hashing this, I wish they would come out with an awesome next version of Elder Scrolls and I wish they would have worked on ES instead of fallout 4 (I've burned out on the fallout series), and while I am at it, I wish the Chiefs had a future Hall of Fame QB.

I tried playing Skyrim on the PC and didn't like it. I have a job where I have to be fairly tech savvy, but I don't want to spend my limited gaming time trying to figure out which mod is conflicting with which graphic option.

They typically go a few years between ES games and FO games, so Fallout came out about when it was expected.

For me and the wife, we still enjoyed playing Skyrim, but when I got the XB1, we didn't want to keep the XB360 hooked up. So improved graphics and the mod addition, we'll buy it. And even if I don't play it a ton, she will, so it's worth it to us.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Gonzo

I waited for skyrim to become a "best of PS3" game before playing it because I just didn't have much interest. I put in roughly 30 hours and decided it was just ok. Now then, if they'd announced a new edition I would've been a bit more interested. This is just a cash grab. The graphics on fallout 4 weren't all that much better than 3 and it was obvious the game was initially going to be a last gen... I'll expect the same here.
Bethesda needs to pull their heads out of their asses.

Its hard to have insane graphics on a game that ****ing big. Especially on a damned console. The problem is getting the games to run at a decent frame rate. I think Sony and MS have a min requirement that games have to meet. If it doesnt meet them requirements MS/Sony will not allow them to release the game.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Skyrim out tonight for XB1. WOOT!