Chiefs Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high - Page 16

**dirk digler** · 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM

I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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http://www.arrowheadpride.com/

I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:

"And KC would never take [safety] that high."

Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.

Saccopoo · 03-16-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You are ****ing nuts. Sharper had nine interceptions during the regular season and three ****ing touchdowns! He had more passes defensed than ANY OTHER SAFETY IN THE LEAGUE and MOST of the cornerbacks. How the **** is a right tackle going to compete with that?

Wow. An interception every two games resulting in a combined 18 points. And that's damn near the benchmark in terms of what a safety is going to be able to contribute to a team.

And considering that Sharper's role in the Saints 4-3 defense was just that - a free form ball hawk, his primary responsibility was to get interceptions. He didn't do anything above and beyond what other 4-3 free safeties were asked to do. Guys like Jarius Bryd, Nick Collins, Tanard Jackson all had similarly productive seasons.

If the Saints were so overly impressed with Sharpers mad safety skills that made him such a priceless commodity, why were they more than happy to let him test the free agent waters for a minimum amount of money?

Yeah, at this point, I'm pretty sure that the Saints place a higher priority on Stinchcomb than Sharper.

Saccopoo · 03-16-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

FTR he said Superbowl run, not playoffs. Superbowl runs start way before the playoffs.

Oh, you are correct. I made the assumption that by saying "Superbowl Run" he meant the playoffs. I mean, the Chiefs started the season on a Superbowl Run by your definition, no?

Hootie · 03-16-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Jared Allen, who they fell backasswards into - they drafted him to be a long snapper.

Derrick Thomas.

20 years of fail.

I love that statement right there.

I'm really sure that the Chiefs were SOOOOO incompetent they drafted Allen PURELY to be a long snapper in the 4th round of the NFL draft

Hey...if you want to say they got lucky and drafted him...I'd agree 100%...

But the long snapper bullshit is hysterical.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-16-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I wonder how society will view my Chief's Planet contributions from a historical perspective.

As you alluded to a magnum opus of western literary contributions, I kind of envision myself as the CP version of Herman Melville. Taken as a compendium, my contributions could be the sport board intrawebs Moby Dick. Never appreciated in their time, but in 30 years realized by history as the single greatest contribution to American sports literature.

I was thinking more like Twilight. Celebrated by the stupid masses, completely vapid, detested by those who actually appreciate literature.

**BossChief** · 03-16-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I kind of envision myself as the CP version of Herman Edwards

FYP

Saccopoo · 03-16-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

posts like this are make you dishonest as opposed to merely stupid

I don't think you understand what you are saying when you use the word "dishonest." How is a persons opinion dishonest? He asked me who I thought was more important to their team - Stinchcomb or Reed. I said Stinchcomb. How is that dishonest?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-16-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I love that statement right there.

I'm really sure that the Chiefs were SOOOOO incompetent they drafted Allen PURELY to be a long snapper in the 4th round of the NFL draft

Hey...if you want to say they got lucky and drafted him...I'd agree 100%...

But the long snapper bullshit is hysterical.

That's exactly what Vermeil said, dumb ****. Exactly.

"He was drafted to be a deep snapper,'' Cunningham said. "There are a lot of people taking credit for drafting Jared Allen.''

"Our head coach was Dick Vermeil, and he asked me to take a look at him (on film before the draft),'' Cunningham said. "Dick asked me if he could play, and I said, 'No doubt.' Dick said, 'Good, because I'm going to draft him as the deep snapper. I don't want to use that roster spot on game day and I'm going to get rid of the deep snapper and get Jared Allen.' "

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...ve_histor.html

L.A. Chieffan · 03-16-2010, 04:36 PM

If we're going to take a OT, the only one I'd be happy with would be Campbell

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-16-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That's exactly what Vermeil said, dumb ****. Exactly.

"He was drafted to be a deep snapper,'' Cunningham said. "There are a lot of people taking credit for drafting Jared Allen.''

"Our head coach was Dick Vermeil, and he asked me to take a look at him (on film before the draft),'' Cunningham said. "Dick asked me if he could play, and I said, 'No doubt.' Dick said, 'Good, because I'm going to draft him as the deep snapper. I don't want to use that roster spot on game day and I'm going to get rid of the deep snapper and get Jared Allen.' "

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...ve_histor.html

And boom goes the dynamite.

**BossChief** · 03-16-2010, 04:46 PM

I cant find it, but I can remember reading how Dick wanted to draft Jared so bad that he got up on the table during the draft and basically demanded CP to draft him.

The other player I can remember Dick wanting bad was Tyler Brayton (who was his preference when CP drafted LJ the previous year)

Gun is full of shit I think. Kendall Gammon was kept here till 2006, so that stuff that Dick was gonna let go of the long snapper and draft Jared is BS.

Jared Allen had more sacks in college than any other player iirc, who cares what school?

The idea that Jared was drafted to strictly long snap is ridiculous.

Gun obviously has ill will for Dick Vermiel because he replaced him as HC back in the day and those statements he made were over 5 years after the fact.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-16-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I cant find it, but I can remember reading how Dick wanted to draft Jared so bad that he got up on the table during the draft and basically demanded CP to draft him.

The other player I can remember Dick wanting bad was Tyler Brayton (who was his preference when CP drafted LJ the previous year)

Gun is full of shit I think. Kendall Gammon was kept here till 2006, so that stuff that Dick was gonna let go of the long snapper and draft Jared is BS.

Jared Allen had more sacks in college than any other player iirc, who cares what school?

The idea that Jared was drafted to strictly long snap is ridiculous.

Gun obviously has ill will for Dick Vermiel because he replaced him as HC back in the day and those statements he made were over 5 years after the fact.

Saccopoo · 03-16-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I was thinking more like Twilight. Celebrated by the stupid masses, completely vapid, detested by those who actually appreciate literature.

I think you're wrong Hamas. As you can clearly see, the unwashed, proletariat masses here on the Chiefs Planet don't like me one bit.

Even the literary critics of my day, such as yourself, don't really appreciate and understand the depth and importance of my contributions.

I simply toil away, railed at, castigated and criticized by the vocal minority, while my insightful genius goes under appreciated.

Maybe William Burroughs...I'm just not sure.

Hammock Parties · 03-16-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

If the Saints were so overly impressed with Sharpers mad safety skills that made him such a priceless commodity, why were they more than happy to let him test the free agent waters for a minimum amount of money?

Because he's old, you dipshit. Did you ever hear of the concept of a gun for hire? The Saints just won the ****ing Super Bowl. The last thing they are is desperate for a 37-year old. Especially because now he wants too much ****ing money and he can't pass a physical (knee surgery) so NO SHIT HE HASN'T BEEN RE-SIGNED.

Here's the ****ing point for you. The Chiefs have SHIT at safety (yes, including Page) and the league assraped them with the deep ball last year. Oh yeah, and our safeties are balls in run support. What do you think is more important? Fixing that shit or finding some fat **** with relatively marginal athletic talent who can drive block and handle slow-ass left ends?

Here's your answer:

**BossChief** · 03-16-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

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what part is wrong and Ill dig more. It may take me awhile to find it, but Im sure its out there. I just didnt want to try that hard.

If he was gonna take him to be a long snapper (when we had a probowl quality one) why did we keep Kendall around till after the 06 season?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-16-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

what part is wrong and Ill dig more. It may take me awhile to find it, but Im sure its out there. I just didnt want to try that hard.

If he was gonna take him to be a long snapper (when we had a probowl quality one) why did we keep Kendall around till after the 06 season?

I'm sure the 20 sacks Allen racked up in his first two seasons had NOTHING to do with why Jared wasn't long-snapping, and why Gammon stuck around.

Hell, why doesn't Minnesota let him long-snap? They could save a roster spot.

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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1555912	I cant find it, but I can remember reading how Dick wanted to draft Jared so bad that he got up on the table during the draft and basically demanded CP to draft him. The other player I can remember Dick wanting bad was Tyler Brayton (who was his preference when CP drafted LJ the previous year) Gun is full of shit I think. Kendall Gammon was kept here till 2006, so that stuff that Dick was gonna let go of the long snapper and draft Jared is BS. Jared Allen had more sacks in college than any other player iirc, who cares what school? The idea that Jared was drafted to strictly long snap is ridiculous. Gun obviously has ill will for Dick Vermiel because he replaced him as HC back in the day and those statements he made were over 5 years after the fact. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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