Chiefs Reflections on a Rat****ing - Page 16

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-17-2010, 02:24 PM

But not by the refs

First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend.

Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel.

I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed
tackles.

I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself
out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop.

Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD.

If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.

The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the
previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history.

It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be.

Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson?

DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game.

Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time.

The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown.

That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.

stevieray · 10-17-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The difference between Houston and KC today?

wide open wr's on a drive that gave up the lead.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-17-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

whatever you want to think.

when you've lead a game until only 28 seconds is left, and watched your defense let them back in the game, you've done enough to win.

keep playing both sides of the fence. cassel sucks, yet he supoosed to pull a rabbit out of hat his in less than 30 seconds.

When did I say anything about Cassel pulling a rabbit out of his hat in less than 30 seconds?

I'm talking about the previous possession, where all we had to do is maintain possession and we win the game.

Instead, we go 3-and-out, and run a whopping 55 seconds off the clock, putting our defense back on the field with no rest.

I'm not saying that the defense isn't to blame. Both sides of the ball had a job to do in the last 3:00, and both failed.

To only blame the defense because the offense did their job the other 57 minutes of the game is ridiculous.

milkman · 10-17-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Oh come on, man, we can't talk about more than one thing at a time. Black and white, either/or, no shades of gray allowed. It taxes our poor neurons.

Okay, is that anything like morons?

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

wide open wr's

Good point. Thanks. Both teams had wide open receivers. Their Matt hit his at the end of the game. Ours didn't.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 10-17-2010, 07:09 PM

I remember Horne running an atrocious route. I might be wrong, but it looked like he tried to sit instead of going towards the sideline. Looked lazy. I mean...I hate cassel, but idk

**dirk digler** · 10-17-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The difference between Houston and KC today?

Bernard Pollard?

I am so pissed Pioli traded him

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Okay, is that anything like morons?

I'd say something witty here but I'm a neuron with limited morons.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-17-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

I remember Horne running an atrocious route. I might be wrong, but it looked like he tried to sit instead of going towards the sideline. Looked lazy. I mean...I hate cassel, but idk

You remember incorrectly.

There was nothing wrong with the route. Cassel overthrew him badly.

I like our chances a lot more if we're sitting 1st down at Houston's 40 with 20 seconds and a time out left.

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Bernard Pollard?

I am so pissed Pioli traded him

I swear my favorite moment of the game was his personal foul on Jones. What a ****ing neuron.

I hate that we lost to that sumbitch.

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You remember incorrectly.

There was nothing wrong with the route. Cassel overthrew him badly.

I like our chances a lot more if we're sitting 1st down at Houston's 40 with 20 seconds and a time out left.

I like our chances a lot more if we score a TD instead of kicking a field goal, and then run the clock out when we get the ball back with 3:30 to go. Although even if we don't convert there we'd be trying to get in range for a winning FG at the end. If we'd scored a TD instead of a field goal.

They were better in the red zone today, though. It's nice to see some 7s going up.

stevieray · 10-17-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Good point. Thanks. Both teams had wide open receivers. Their Matt hit his at the end of the game. Ours didn't.

easy to do when you aren't getting pressure on the QB.

where was Hali? I know lenny mentioned the lack of pressure on schaub thorughout the game.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 10-17-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You remember incorrectly.

There was nothing wrong with the route. Cassel overthrew him badly.

I like our chances a lot more if we're sitting 1st down at Houston's 40 with 20 seconds and a time out left.

I don't know... I was at the game and it happened in front of me. It looked like he floated back to the QB when it wasn't necessary. Didn't get to see the replay at the game...did they show a replay of the whole play? It was right in front of me

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

I don't know... I was at the game and it happened in front of me. It looked like he floated back to the QB when it wasn't necessary. Didn't get to see the replay at the game...did they show a replay of the whole play? It was right in front of me

He was wide ****ing open and Cassel threw the ball 4 foot above his head.

milkman · 10-17-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'd say something witty here but I'm a neuron with limited morons.

LRonHubbard!

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

easy to do when you aren't getting pressure on the QB.

where was Hali? I know lenny mentioned the lack of pressure on schaub thorughout the game.

We've all been asking that question all day. You seem to be the only one locked on Cassel.

10-17-2010, 02:24 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	Reflections on a Rating But not by the refs First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend. Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel. I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed tackles. I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop. Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD. If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds. The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history. It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be. Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson? DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game. Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time. The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown. That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	I remember Horne running an atrocious route. I might be wrong, but it looked like he tried to sit instead of going towards the sideline. Looked lazy. I mean...I hate cassel, but idk
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