Chiefs Top 10 Offense? - Page 16

Mr. Arrowhead · 07-02-2013, 02:42 PM

On NFL Live, they had a debate on whether the Chiefs can be a Top 10 offense, and surprisingly they both thought that we would be in the top 10 in offense. Kind of crazy

MagicHef · 07-05-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Yeah. I just don't agree with it. Hell, if the trend continued, if he threw a 100 passes in a game, he would be lucky to complete any. Especially on your earlier ones.

What if he threw a million passes in one game?

**ptlyon** · 07-05-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

What if he threw a million passes in one game?

2.4 million interceptions

Coogs · 07-05-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

What if he threw a million passes in one game?

Exactly!

EDIT: I'm going to go with he would complete 600,000 give or take 30,000... which means your line of best fit is too f'ing steep!

Coogs · 07-05-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

2.4 million interceptions

Minimum!

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-05-2013, 02:54 PM

Stupid donkey bullshit.

MagicHef · 07-05-2013, 03:00 PM

Ok, BossChief. In 2012 the average team threw 35 passes per game and completed 61% of those.

I'll bet you that Alex Smith completes 61+% of his passes in less than half of the games where he throws 35 or more passes.

That is something that Manning, Rivers, and Palmer all managed to do in 2012, by the way. Neither Cassel nor Quinn did, though.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-05-2013, 03:16 PM

Y'all are getting away from the argument. The Alex Smith part is pointless as long as there are people wanting to ignore certain seasons, certain games, etc.

"This season skews the stats, this game skews the stats" - all rubbish.

Did he play in said season? Said game? Then it counts.

I don't give a shit if Alex Smith has a 95% completion percentage in Sunday late games, when he attempts fewer than 20 passes, on days where the temperature is above 75 when he's playing against a team who has gold in their uniforms and an animal as a mascot.

Last year, the 10th ranked scoring offense scored 25 points a game.

Unless the defense breaks a record for producing turnovers, it's not happening.

I think a fair expectation is around 18th - or 21 points a game.

T-post Tom · 07-05-2013, 03:18 PM

Fix the red zone offense & the magic 8 ball says, "All signs point to'yes'.

**SAUTO** · 07-05-2013, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Y'all are getting away from the argument. The Alex Smith part is pointless as long as there are people wanting to ignore certain seasons, certain games, etc.

"This season skews the stats, this game skews the stats" - all rubbish.

Did he play in said season? Said game? Then it counts.

I don't give a shit if Alex Smith has a 95% completion percentage in Sunday late games, when he attempts fewer than 20 passes, on days where the temperature is above 75 when he's playing against a team who has gold in their uniforms and an animal as a mascot.

Last year, the 10th ranked scoring offense scored 25 points a game.

Unless the defense breaks a record for producing turnovers, it's not happening.

I think a fair expectation is around 18th - or 21 points a game.

I never understood just throwing out games/seasons either.

If you need that to prove a point there isn't rally a point
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**SAUTO** · 07-05-2013, 04:51 PM

Really a point
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Ace Gunner · 07-05-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Here's his completion percentage vs attempts for the last 2 years. Tell me what happens when Reid asks him to throw 56 times.

if Reid has Alex Smith throwing 50 passes a game, which he won't, you have to consider the offensive scheme in order to project numbers -- the type of WCO Reid runs is high percentage passing and it gets the ball out quickly a lot of times.

Jamaal Charles will be the primary offensive weapon again this season.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-05-2013, 05:34 PM

Hope in one hand, shit in the other.

**mlyonsd** · 07-05-2013, 05:48 PM

I laugh at the idea of a top 10 offense but am at the same time excited to see what happens after a complete reset. Turning on the game anticipating you might win instead of wondering how bad it will be is something I'm looking forward to.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-05-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Why do people keep saying this?

He's below average in terms of yards per completion, yards per game, TD passes, third down conversions...all the most important parts of being a QB.

The guy is in no way in the top half of the league.

PFF disagrees. Why isn't Hef beating that monkey when it comes to Smith?

MagicHef · 07-05-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

PFF disagrees. Why isn't Hef beating that monkey when it comes to Smith?

As I have said before, I don't like PFF's ratings. I do like their charting (snap counts, pressures, etc). It is true that Smith looks great considering his PFF rating. It's also true that I don't care about that.

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MagicHef The Seated Villain Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle Casino cash: $1390247	Ok, BossChief. In 2012 the average team threw 35 passes per game and completed 61% of those. I'll bet you that Alex Smith completes 61+% of his passes in less than half of the games where he throws 35 or more passes. That is something that Manning, Rivers, and Palmer all managed to do in 2012, by the way. Neither Cassel nor Quinn did, though.
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07-05-2013, 03:16 PM	#232
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4211115	Y'all are getting away from the argument. The Alex Smith part is pointless as long as there are people wanting to ignore certain seasons, certain games, etc. "This season skews the stats, this game skews the stats" - all rubbish. Did he play in said season? Said game? Then it counts. I don't give a shit if Alex Smith has a 95% completion percentage in Sunday late games, when he attempts fewer than 20 passes, on days where the temperature is above 75 when he's playing against a team who has gold in their uniforms and an animal as a mascot. Last year, the 10th ranked scoring offense scored 25 points a game. Unless the defense breaks a record for producing turnovers, it's not happening. I think a fair expectation is around 18th - or 21 points a game.
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mlyonsd Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Spink, SD Casino cash: $173762	I laugh at the idea of a top 10 offense but am at the same time excited to see what happens after a complete reset. Turning on the game anticipating you might win instead of wondering how bad it will be is something I'm looking forward to.
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