Woman behind the Redskins name change says the Chiefs should be on guard

[BigRedChief]

The fight took a monumental shift at a protest nine years at Arrowhead Stadium and it’s about to come full circle. No matter what you think of the issue, it will soon be ubiquitous in and around Kansas City’s greatest obsession other than barbecue.

The Chiefs are aware of it, and are preparing accordingly.


Back in 2005, a group calling itself Not In Our Honor protested before the Chiefs played Washington. The protesters were predominately American Indians, united in their anger over what they perceived as offensive stereotypes passed off as nicknames for sports teams. An older woman, Suzan Harjo, one of the leaders of the protest, met a younger woman named Amanda Blackhorse, then a student at Kansas.

They bonded over their passion for the issue, and that’s how the case known as Blackhorse et al v. Pro-Football Inc. came to be. Last week the plaintiffs prevailed when the United States Patent and Trademark Office canceled the trademarks of the Washington Redskins.


The case is under appeal, but you should know that the woman who took on and (at least for the moment) defeated the corporate entity that owns Washington’s NFL team would like to see the same type of case brought against the Chiefs.
As she says, the spark that started back in 2005 at Arrowhead has created a fire that will probably soon return.


“What happens there, it’s just insane the things they allow to go on,” Blackhorse says of the Chiefs and Arrowhead. “They are definitely in the group (of offensive teams), for sure.”


For now, the Chiefs are publicly silent on this. But they know the fight is likely coming, and they hope a few things work in their favor — most notably that it’s tough to compare their nickname with the one in Washington that is a dictionary-defined racial slur. Blackhorse’s group has also protested baseball’s Cleveland Indians, and that team has greatly scaled back its use of the cartoonish Chief Wahoo logo.


The Chiefs have similarly scaled back some of their more obvious plays on Indian stereotypes, and they hope they have some other advantages when the fight comes. The team is named after H. Roe Bartle, the mayor who was key in Kansas City landing the team from Dallas in 1962. Bartle’s nickname was “The Chief.”


The team stopped using a man dressed in traditional headgear as a mascot during pregame festivities many years ago. In the early 1990s, many of the Chiefs’ defensive players posed for a poster that today both looks absolutely ridiculous and would never be recreated.
The team does, however, play the tomahawk chop during games and welcomes fans in headgear and other stereotypes of Native American dress.


Those are some of the parts of the game day experience that Blackhorse calls “insane,” and why she expects a fight that’s gaining momentum and support nationally to come to Kansas City.


She knows that the vast majority of Chiefs fans will oppose her, but she also knows that the vast majority of fans in Washington opposed her, as well.


She says there is “no middle ground with this issue,” that once an ethnic group is used as a nickname for a sports team, the people in that ethic group lose control of their identity and humanity.


“I don’t want people to think I’m going around pointing fingers, like, ‘You’re a racist, you’re a racist, you’re a racist,’ ” she says. “That’s not the point. The point is we’re offended. You can love Native Americans to death. You can have admiration, love what we do, how we are, whatever, and still (hijack) our culture without understanding it that way.”


Wherever you stand on this issue, there is no denying that Blackhorse’s side is making progress. Teams are sensitive to and aware of perpetuating stereotypes so much more than in the past, in response to public sentiment.


The issue is further complicated by context, that this is a fight centered around Indians, who make up about 1 percent of the nation’s population and who, in Blackhorse’s words, “are invisible sometimes to people.”
That makes getting the message out a bit more difficult. A group of people that feels offended by widespread stereotyping isn’t big enough to get critical mass on its own.


That’s why Blackhorse says the movement needs the help of non-Indians, and part of why she’s so encouraged by developments in Congress and with the trademark case.


There is a lot of momentum here, which can be dangerous for teams like the Chiefs that will likely soon find themselves directly in the fight.
“I’m not sure there’s anything the (Chiefs) can do at this point other than look for another name,” Blackhorse says. “They could be the team that says, ‘You know what? We understand the issue and we don’t want to be Dan Snyder and fight this in court forever. We want to do the right thing and move forward and avoid this entire battle.’ I’m sure fans will be upset, but still, that’s doing the right thing.


“If they want to be sensitive to Native American people, that’s the thing to do.”

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Early 90's

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Fish

And to another individual native American, neither word is offensive.

Can't please everyone.....

No, you can't. But giving in to this sort of idiocy just makes things worse.

Women = offensive, because patriarchal
Homosexual = offensive, because... well... no reason really, but it's offensive
reeruned (a word initially used to avoid offending people) = offensive, because.... no reason really, part 2
Redskins = suddenly offensive, because a handful of activists have decided to get up in arms about it

And so on. This shit gets more pervasive every day, because too many people are idiots who go along gladly supporting this sort of stupidity, or are cowards who are afraid to tell the complainers to **** off.

[Old Dog]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You little bitches can cry me a ****ing river and die in a flaming bucket of aids....

Would smallpox work instead?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Everyone is showing their ass in this debate including me. We all have different opinions and views, none of us are correct until we have walked in the shoes of the native americans that find these phrases and images, etc offensive..

That's a load of bullshit.

[BigMeatballDave]

There is absolutely nothing I can see that is offensive about the Chiefs. Nothing.

The Chop is, but not because of Native Americans. It's just hokey as ****.

[Crying Ramtard]

you stinking Chief


you are a bunch of chiefs

chief off

kiss my chief

stupid chief

neener neener you're a chief haha

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

That's a load of bullshit.

So tell me about it....

[R8RFAN]

Bunch of Racists ... Change the name, it's not like it has been successful or anything.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So tell me about it....

No. It's pretty self-explanatory.

[BryanBusby]

The name itself is fine, but they should consider changing a lot of their game day traditions.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Oh yeah, but I'm talking here at home, in the US.

Yeah, gotta watch out for them Canadian cavemen, they're assholes

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No. It's pretty self-explanatory.

Just making sure you understand...

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

The name itself is fine, but they should consider changing a lot of their game day traditions.

We drink like Indians on the 3rd of the month, does that count?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

how is this any different than the white guy trying to act black? or the white guy supporting any radical racial group who wants change?

So if you can make fun of the people that are part this or that, they can look back at you and tell your dumb white ass to shut the **** up. You are not Native American, keep your man pleaser shut and take your honkey ass back to the casino.

Those people always crack me up. White man 100% invested into some movement that doesnt affect his race....

Im not white....so uh....ok lol.

And yeah, i make fun of white guys who act black too. And Asian guys who act black....

Hrmm....I've never seen a white guy act Asian. But i have seen asian and black act white....

And you've completely missed the point.

You're white. Period. There are a lot of benefits to being white. Embrace it.

I don't believe in "1/8th" anything, let alone 1/128th. WTF does that even mean?

Somewhere along the line i might be parts french, Aztec or Inca mixed in with some 1/8th Irish....does it matter? **** no. It's funny to me when people claim that shit.

My Mother was Mexican. My dad was white. My great grandfather was imported from Ireland. So that makes me.....some sort of mix of **** knows what.

At the end of the day...im just a half white-half bean dude that doesn't know dick about what it's like being Irish or ...w/e my Mexican roots may have been.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

We drink like Indians, does that count?

I wonder if the indians beat their wives too? I am sure most of you guys do that as well?

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Im not white....so uh....ok lol.



And yeah, i make fun of white guys who act black too. And Asian guys who act black....



Hrmm....I've never seen a white guy act Asian. But i have seen asian and black act white....



And you've completely missed the point.



You're white. Period. There are a lot of benefits to being white. Embrace it.



I don't believe in "1/8th" anything, let alone 1/128th. WTF does that even mean?



Somewhere along the line i might be parts french, Aztec or Inca mixed in with some 1/8th Irish....does it matter? **** no. It's funny to me when people claim that shit.



My Mother was Mexican. My dad was white. My great grandfather was imported from Ireland. So that makes me.....some sort of mix of **** knows what.



At the end of the day...im just a half white-half bean dude that doesn't know dick about what it's like being Irish or ...w/e my Mexican roots may have been.

Perfect....