Is Aaron Rodgers GROSSLY overrated?

[Hootie]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ck-experiment/

I watched the entire GB/Det game and I must say...Rodgers has not gotten better at getting rid of the ball. He's got a lot of Alex Smith in him in that regard. He takes a TON of unnecessary sacks. It's bothersome. He also missed a wide open Jordy Nelson when trying to come back on 4th and 5 with a terrible pass 3 yards behind him in a clean pocket...

He's had 1 good playoff run. So has Joe Flacco.

Why does everyone think he's the best QB in the NFL?

I think he's top 5, certainly. But I also don't understand how Tony Romo is a choker, but Aaron Rodgers is not?

I have been grossly unimpressed with Rodgers this year...and in all honesty, the last few postseasons...super meh.

I've said this for a few years now, but...I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers and at this point, I don't even think it's close.

Also, Rodgers is nowhere near Peyton Manning (obvi) or IN HIS PRIME Tom Brady, let's be honest.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by milkman

Regardless of your perception, he played a shitty ****ing game against a shitty ****ing team.

He ABSOLUTELY did.

Couldn't agree more.

Still not sure how that means he was bad against the Bears, or the Patriots the week before...

But if that means he doesn't get credit for winning a Super Bowl because of the Chiefs game then Tom Brady has won -1 Super Bowls because he didn't play the AFC Championship game the first one and I am not giving him credit for the other 2 because of Spygate.

So Tom has -1 Super Bowl wins to Peyton's 0.

Peyton still > Tom.

[Hootie]

I just want to know who a good QB is if Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are both choking losers.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

He ABSOLUTELY did.

Couldn't agree more.

Still not sure how that means he was bad against the Bears, or the Patriots the week before...

But if that means he doesn't get credit for winning a Super Bowl because of the Chiefs game then Tom Brady has won -1 Super Bowls because he didn't play the AFC Championship game the first one and I am not giving him credit for the other 2 because of Spygate.

So Tom has -1 Super Bowl wins to Peyton's 0.

Peyton still > Tom.

You overrate his postseason efforts.

Calling the Bears defense one of the best 2 in the last 2 decades is either disingenuous or sheer stupidity.

He played a good game against a declining Pats defense and a solid Bears defense that played a scheme he eats alive.

[Hootie]

that Bears defense was the 2nd best defense since 2000

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

that Bears defense was the 2nd best defense since 2000

You're ****ing high.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

He ABSOLUTELY did.

Couldn't agree more.

Still not sure how that means he was bad against the Bears, or the Patriots the week before...

But if that means he doesn't get credit for winning a Super Bowl because of the Chiefs game then Tom Brady has won -1 Super Bowls because he didn't play the AFC Championship game the first one and I am not giving him credit for the other 2 because of Spygate.

So Tom has -1 Super Bowl wins to Peyton's 0.

Peyton still > Tom.

Manning Manbag Pho now on the menu

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I just want to know who a good QB is if Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are both choking losers.

I just want to know how a QB with a sub-.500 playoff record is "clutch" and the GOAT.

[Hootie]

where have I said Manning is clutch?

Manning is just so good that envy turns into hate.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Not to mention that one of those .gifs was directly from the Rahim Moore game...you know, the same game that he had won with a TD pass late in the 4th quarter

Obviously he hadn't won it, because he lost the game.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

where have I said Manning is clutch?

Manning is just so good that envy turns into hate.

Yes, we're all just so envious of his under .500 playoff record.

[Hootie]

I'm super envious of a guy who's played in 23 playoff games and 3 Super Bowls...

sure wish the chiefs had a choker like that

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by milkman

You overrate his postseason efforts.

Calling the Bears defense one of the best 2 in the last 2 decades is either disingenuous or sheer stupidity.

He played a good game against a declining Pats defense and a solid Bears defense that played a scheme he eats alive.

The Patriots defenders were all sick, which is why they faded so badly in the second half, and the officials had a huge impact on the game by calling a PI on Hobbs for face quarding, which was not illegal. Manning then faced Rex Grossman (Rex ****ing Grossman ) in the SB, which was clearly just the coronation game for either NE or IND after the AFCCG.

Manning's only SB win was practically gifted to him. It's not his fault that it broke that way, but it's the way it is.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The Patriots defenders were all sick, which is why they faded so badly in the second half, and the officials had a huge impact on the game by calling a PI on Hobbs for face quarding, which was not illegal. Manning then faced Rex Grossman (Rex ****ing Grossman ) in the SB, which was clearly just the coronation game for either NE or IND after the AFCCG.

Manning's only SB win was practically gifted to him.

Regardless of the QB on the other side, the Bears defense, while not nearly as good as Hootie paints them, were still pretty good.

He played a good, efficient game against them, and the Bears offense couldn't generate anything against a Colt defense that played better than they had ever played before, or since, that playoff run.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The Patriots defenders were all sick, which is why they faded so badly in the second half, and the officials had a huge impact on the game by calling a PI on Hobbs for face quarding, which was not illegal. Manning then faced Rex Grossman (Rex ****ing Grossman ) in the SB, which was clearly just the coronation game for either NE or IND after the AFCCG.

Manning's only SB win was practically gifted to him. It's not his fault that it broke that way, but it's the way it is.

they were sick

good god

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by milkman

Regardless of the QB on the other side, the Bears defense, while not nearly as good as Hootie paints them, were still pretty good.

He played a good, efficient game against them, and the Bears offense couldn't generate anything against a Colt defense that played better than they had ever played before, or since, that playoff run.

He won a Lombardi. I'm not trying to take that away from him, but he did it in a year where he never cracked an 82 QB rating. I doubt that bothers him when he's looking at his ring, but it undercuts a lot of Hootie's bullshit.