Football The Pioli Watch Thread - Page 161

cardken · 02:26 PM

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

blueballs · 01-09-2009, 11:59 PM

3. I hear the Browns and several other teams will chase Denver special teams coach Scott O’Brien, who is one of the best in the NFL, not only coaching special teams but handling game management situations

game management situations
what

Pants · 01-10-2009, 12:04 AM

Pioli will be our GM. Count on it.

blueballs · 01-10-2009, 12:06 AM

If Clark can't get the first Scott
he better get the second Scott

unothadeal · 01-10-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Pioli will be our GM. Count on it.

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**KcMizzou** · 01-10-2009, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike

Pioli will be our GM. Count on it.

That's kinda what I'm thinkin'.

People are just getting impatient.

unothadeal · 01-10-2009, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike

Pioli will be our GM. Count on it.

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Wilson8 · 01-10-2009, 12:09 AM

Scott Pioli talk questionable

Interview tales make little sense

If you know anything at all about Scott Pioli, you know when it comes to football matters he is never unprepared, which is what makes recent claims about his interview with the Cleveland Browns difficult to fathom.
If those reports are accurate, Pioli was so ill-prepared for his seven-hour interview with Browns owner Randy Lerner that he couldn’t think of a single thing he needed to turn around a billion dollar company with sinking football fortunes. Couldn’t think of anything he had to have to right a 4-12 team with personnel problems, salary cap problems and no head coach. Not one thing.
That is what some folks would have you believe, perhaps never considering what that really means. It means Pioli showed up for dinner and didn’t even ask for a menu. Sat there for seven hours convincing Lerner he didn’t need a thing to fix the mess the Browns had become.
Does that sound like the Scott Pioli who has been widely declared among the most well-prepared front office executives in the game? The same guy who spends endless hours working to find out everything he can about every player he looks at? The guy who keeps his team prepared for any possible personnel disaster? Yet when he gets in front of Lerner, he has no idea what to ask for to fix the Browns’ problems?
“Didn’t ask for anything.”
If that’s true, no wonder Eric Mangini is in Cleveland and Scott Pioli is not.
The slant of SI.com’s Peter King was that Lerner was “sure Pioli was the top candidate to come into Cleveland to rebuild his team.” If that is true, how did Lerner come to that conclusion? By listening to Pioli’s iPod selections?
What King wrote was that “Pioli never made any demands that gave Lerner cold feet.” So did he make demands or didn’t he?
If that’s true, Pioli was as unprepared for one of the most important days in his professional life as any human being could be.
Having seen Pioli in operation for as long as he’s been in New England, and having talked to many NFL executives and personnel people familiar with his work, I can assure you of one thing: Scott Pioli was not unprepared for that interview. He also is not some shrinking violet afraid to ask for what he needs to build a winner for fear the owner might run off screaming into the night.
Pioli, a two-time NFL Executive of the Year, knew exactly what he believed was necessary to turn around Lerner’s troubled franchise. To suggest he, as NFL Network’s respected news maven Adam Schefter wrote, “never asked for anything from the Browns,” is absurd. That is not to say someone didn’t tell Schefter that. It’s just to point out if it’s true, it’s the first time in the history of NFL interviews that it happened.
“Never asked for anything.”
For that to be true, Scott Pioli would have to have concluded everything was right with the Browns and he needed nothing to improve them. Of course, if that’s the case, why hire him?
Or he would have had to have thrown his old friend Romeo Crennel and his former boss Phil Savage under the bus and blamed them for every wrong that existed in Cleveland and thus made clear that simply getting rid of them was the answer. In which case, why hire him?
Or he sat there like a bump on a log for seven hours without any idea what needed to be done in Cleveland to turn it into the kind of model franchise he has so greatly helped Bill Belichick build in New England. In which case, why hire him?
Or there’s the last possibility. He “never asked for anything” because he had no idea what to ask for or how to go about it or even what he should be paid to do the job. If you believe that, you’ve never talked to Scott Pioli and you don’t think much of the quality of his work.

rborges@bostonherald.com

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...rts&position=3

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-10-2009, 12:20 AM

Okayyyy....

Well, other than identifying that Adam Schefter is a tool, which we all knew anyway, what exactly is DCS supposed to glean from this?

**HemiEd** · 01-10-2009, 12:20 AM

Or, he would rather be in KC than Cleveland. Who wouldn't?

**Bugeater** · 01-10-2009, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

That's kinda what I'm thinkin'.

People are just getting impatient.

Can't say I blame them. 20 years of Carl has drained the fanbase of every ounce of patience they ever had.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-10-2009, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

That's kinda what I'm thinkin'.

People are just getting impatient.

Well, Stoops got plowed; that's 1.

If Sandy Bunghole get's thrashed tomorrow, and Pioli and Clark make an announcement next week, I can officially say that this season wasn't a complete wash.

If Herm get's his Righteous Shit-Can to boot, I can say that this was the "Greatest...Losing...Season...EVER"!

Thig Lyfe · 01-10-2009, 12:34 AM

If Clark wanting to keep Herm around keeps Pioli out, I will inject the ebola virus directly into my body.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-10-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

If Clark wanting to keep Herm around keeps Pioli out, I will inject the ebola virus directly into my body.

BigRock · 01-10-2009, 12:37 AM

I love the connect the dots aspect of this thread.

Rocky mf'n Alden hears that Pioli is in and will be announced on Friday --> everyone in the world spreads that story --> Metro Sports reports that Pioli is in and it'll be announced on Friday.

Soren Petro tells story about Mark Dominik being told he's not up for the GM job --> story quickly pops up on various message boards --> Michael Lombardi hears that candidates are being told they aren't needed. (Incidentally, 610 disputed Petro's story, for whatever that's worth.)

Boston Globe says it's believed that Clark would like to keep Herm but it's hardly a deal-breaker with Pioli --> Rotoworld links to that story but botches it, implying that it could be a deal-breaker --> Jeremy Green hears that the hold-up is that Clark wants to keep Herm.

**HemiEd** · 01-10-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

I love the connect the dots aspect of this thread.

Rocky mf'n Alden hears that Pioli is in and will be announced on Friday --> everyone in the world spreads that story --> Metro Sports reports that Pioli is in and it'll be announced on Friday.

Soren Petro tells story about Mark Dominik being told he's not up for the GM job --> story quickly pops up on various message boards --> Michael Lombardi hears that candidates are being told they aren't needed. (Incidentally, 610 disputed Petro's story, for whatever that's worth.)

Boston Globe says it's believed that Clark would like to keep Herm but it's hardly a deal-breaker with Pioli --> Rotoworld links to that story but botches it, implying that it could be a deal-breaker --> Jeremy Green hears that the hold-up is that Clark wants to keep Herm.

Nice Recap, your post should be a sticky.

01-09-2009, 11:59 PM	#2401
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01-10-2009, 12:04 AM	#2402
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01-10-2009, 12:06 AM	#2403
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01-10-2009, 12:09 AM	#2407
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3577557	Scott Pioli talk questionable Interview tales make little sense If you know anything at all about Scott Pioli, you know when it comes to football matters he is never unprepared, which is what makes recent claims about his interview with the Cleveland Browns difficult to fathom. If those reports are accurate, Pioli was so ill-prepared for his seven-hour interview with Browns owner Randy Lerner that he couldn’t think of a single thing he needed to turn around a billion dollar company with sinking football fortunes. Couldn’t think of anything he had to have to right a 4-12 team with personnel problems, salary cap problems and no head coach. Not one thing. That is what some folks would have you believe, perhaps never considering what that really means. It means Pioli showed up for dinner and didn’t even ask for a menu. Sat there for seven hours convincing Lerner he didn’t need a thing to fix the mess the Browns had become. Does that sound like the Scott Pioli who has been widely declared among the most well-prepared front office executives in the game? The same guy who spends endless hours working to find out everything he can about every player he looks at? The guy who keeps his team prepared for any possible personnel disaster? Yet when he gets in front of Lerner, he has no idea what to ask for to fix the Browns’ problems? “Didn’t ask for anything.” If that’s true, no wonder Eric Mangini is in Cleveland and Scott Pioli is not. The slant of SI.com’s Peter King was that Lerner was “sure Pioli was the top candidate to come into Cleveland to rebuild his team.” If that is true, how did Lerner come to that conclusion? By listening to Pioli’s iPod selections? What King wrote was that “Pioli never made any demands that gave Lerner cold feet.” So did he make demands or didn’t he? If that’s true, Pioli was as unprepared for one of the most important days in his professional life as any human being could be. Having seen Pioli in operation for as long as he’s been in New England, and having talked to many NFL executives and personnel people familiar with his work, I can assure you of one thing: Scott Pioli was not unprepared for that interview. He also is not some shrinking violet afraid to ask for what he needs to build a winner for fear the owner might run off screaming into the night. Pioli, a two-time NFL Executive of the Year, knew exactly what he believed was necessary to turn around Lerner’s troubled franchise. To suggest he, as NFL Network’s respected news maven Adam Schefter wrote, “never asked for anything from the Browns,” is absurd. That is not to say someone didn’t tell Schefter that. It’s just to point out if it’s true, it’s the first time in the history of NFL interviews that it happened. “Never asked for anything.” For that to be true, Scott Pioli would have to have concluded everything was right with the Browns and he needed nothing to improve them. Of course, if that’s the case, why hire him? Or he would have had to have thrown his old friend Romeo Crennel and his former boss Phil Savage under the bus and blamed them for every wrong that existed in Cleveland and thus made clear that simply getting rid of them was the answer. In which case, why hire him? Or he sat there like a bump on a log for seven hours without any idea what needed to be done in Cleveland to turn it into the kind of model franchise he has so greatly helped Bill Belichick build in New England. In which case, why hire him? Or there’s the last possibility. He “never asked for anything” because he had no idea what to ask for or how to go about it or even what he should be paid to do the job. If you believe that, you’ve never talked to Scott Pioli and you don’t think much of the quality of his work. rborges@bostonherald.com http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...rts&position=3
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BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $2985412	I love the connect the dots aspect of this thread. Rocky mf'n Alden hears that Pioli is in and will be announced on Friday --> everyone in the world spreads that story --> Metro Sports reports that Pioli is in and it'll be announced on Friday. Soren Petro tells story about Mark Dominik being told he's not up for the GM job --> story quickly pops up on various message boards --> Michael Lombardi hears that candidates are being told they aren't needed. (Incidentally, 610 disputed Petro's story, for whatever that's worth.) Boston Globe says it's believed that Clark would like to keep Herm but it's hardly a deal-breaker with Pioli --> Rotoworld links to that story but botches it, implying that it could be a deal-breaker --> Jeremy Green hears that the hold-up is that Clark wants to keep Herm.
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