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**Tribal Warfare** · 05-30-2013, 04:02 PM

Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday.

“He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’

Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers.

Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions.

Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released.

The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits.

That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief.

“He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’

Those intangibles were the unknown.

“I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work.

“When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’

In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs.

“It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’

The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans.

“It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’

Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice.

Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps.

“I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve.

“Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’

RunKC · 06-03-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Eli converted 7. Alex Converted 1.

This is the dumbest point you have EVER brought up. And that's saying something.

No the stupidest thing ever is saying that this was all Alex Smith's fault.

Turnovers lose games and Kyle Williams turned it over TWICE from the start of the 4th quarter.

How about the other 2 fumbles? How about the defense giving up the crucial TD after Kyle Williams' first **** up?

How about the OL getting owned by Giants DL?

All Alex's fault I guess.

-King- · 06-03-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

No the stupidest thing ever is saying that this was all Alex Smith's fault.

Turnovers lose games and Kyle Williams turned it over TWICE from the start of the 4th quarter.

How about the other 2 fumbles? How about the defense giving up the crucial TD after Kyle Williams' first **** up?

How about the OL getting owned by Giants DL?

All Alex's fault I guess.

Never said it was all his fault. The fumbles had a big role in the loss. So did the TERRIBLE 3rd down conversion rate.

**SAUTO** · 06-03-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

No the stupidest thing ever is saying that this was all Alex Smith's fault.

Turnovers lose games and Kyle Williams turned it over TWICE from the start of the 4th quarter.

How about the other 2 fumbles? How about the defense giving up the crucial TD after Kyle Williams' first **** up?

How about the OL getting owned by Giants DL?

All Alex's fault I guess.

No one has said its all Smiths fault.

Personally I could give a **** less about any of the other reasons. We didn't trade for Williams, their o line, their defense, their coaches.

We traded for the guy who couldn't convert a third down for his team, and showed no situational awareness if you look at the logs. Many passes short of the marker, short runs by the qb, sacks...
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RunKC · 06-03-2013, 07:29 PM

Alex does deserve some of the blame for his 3rd down %, but if you really think that was the sole reason why they lost that game you're out of your mind.

Kyle Williams ruined the whole momentum of the game.

The 49ers were up 14-10 with 11 minutes left in the game and had the Giants pinned at their own 15. If Williams doesn't **** up that punt, the 49ers have the ball at midfield with momentum.

But no, he let the ball hit hit knee, the Giants got the ball inside the 49ers 30 yard line, got momentum and then scored a TD to take the lead.

**SAUTO** · 06-03-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Alex does deserve some of the blame for his 3rd down %, but if you really think that was the sole reason why they lost that game you're out of your mind.

Kyle Williams ruined the whole momentum of the game.

The 49ers were up 14-10 with 11 minutes left in the game and had the Giants pinned at their own 15. If Williams doesn't **** up that punt, the 49ers have the ball at midfield with momentum.

But no, he let the ball hit hit knee, the Giants got the ball inside the 49ers 30 yard line, got momentum and then scored a TD to take the lead.

Please shut the **** up.

two posts have just said its not all his fault
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-King- · 06-03-2013, 07:31 PM

With 2 minutes to go in the 4th quarter:

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1st and 10 at SF 29 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass incomplete short right to M.Crabtree.

2nd and 10 at SF 29 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass incomplete short right to M.Crabtree.

3rd and 10 at SF 29 (Shotgun) Alex Smith pass incomplete deep right to D.Walker.

4th and 10 at SF 29 A.Lee punts 59 yards to NYG 12, Center-B.Jennings. A.Ross to NYG 18 for 6 yards (B.Costanzo).

RunKC · 06-03-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

With 2 minutes to go in the 4th quarter:

Before Kyle Williams gift, the last FOUR possessions from the Giants were punts.

They just got lucky that Kyle Williams gift wrapped that fumble that put them in great FG position to win the game.

RunKC · 06-03-2013, 07:45 PM

Here's how much Kyle Williams changed this game.

The Giants had 8, that's right, EIGHT punts in their last 10 possessions.

The 2 possessions that they didn't punt were both because of Kyle Wiliams turnovers that gave the NYG field position inside the 49ers 30 yard line both times, which resulted in a TD and game winning FG.

O.city · 06-03-2013, 07:52 PM

So the 9ers had that many chances to capitalize and take the game by the throat and couldn't?

-King- · 06-03-2013, 08:03 PM

It's funny how RunKC can't get it through his dense head that no one is blaming the loss entirely on Smith. Did Williams fumbles have a big part in the loss? Of course. Did having a 0.08% 3rd down conversation have a big part int he loss? Of course.

RunKC · 06-03-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So the 9ers had that many chances to capitalize and take the game by the throat and couldn't?

Hard to do that when your returner gives the ball back to the other team in crucial moments. They would have had great field position too.

Alex Smith did engineer a 48 yard drive to tie the game directly after the Giants TD from the first Kyle Williams mistake.

I think that should count for something.

RunKC · 06-03-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

It's funny how RunKC can't get it through his dense head that no one is blaming the loss entirely on Smith. Did Williams fumbles have a big part in the loss? Of course. Did having a 0.08% 3rd down conversation have a big part int he loss? Of course.

Both QB's struggled to engineer drives the whole game. The defenses were just too good.

**SAUTO** · 06-03-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Both QB's struggled to engineer drives the whole game. The defenses were just too good.

What does mannings conversion rate have to do with anything?

He was playing a different defense than Smith was.
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a pp roach · 06-03-2013, 10:21 PM

interesting that we're debating one game here.

i can only hope the verdict on alex smith is determined by one game and that game would be a playoff game.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-03-2013, 10:32 PM

Ah...the sweet joy of blathering on about another ****ing Chiefs retread. Yay.

05-30-2013, 04:02 PM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $602813	Teicher:Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday. “He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’ Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers. Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions. Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released. The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits. That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief. “He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’ Those intangibles were the unknown. “I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work. “When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’ In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs. “It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’ The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans. “It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’ Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice. Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps. “I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve. “Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1949611	Alex does deserve some of the blame for his 3rd down %, but if you really think that was the sole reason why they lost that game you're out of your mind. Kyle Williams ruined the whole momentum of the game. The 49ers were up 14-10 with 11 minutes left in the game and had the Giants pinned at their own 15. If Williams doesn't ** up that punt, the 49ers have the ball at midfield with momentum. But no, he let the ball hit hit knee, the Giants got the ball inside the 49ers 30 yard line, got momentum and then scored a TD to take the lead. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley**
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1949611	Here's how much Kyle Williams changed this game. The Giants had 8, that's right, EIGHT punts in their last 10 possessions. The 2 possessions that they didn't punt were both because of Kyle Wiliams turnovers that gave the NYG field position inside the 49ers 30 yard line both times, which resulted in a TD and game winning FG. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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