I'm going to make a lot of you ill with this thread

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

The Alex Smith Experiment

Let it be known, I was in mourning all day yesterday. I had hitched my wagons so tightly to Geno Smith or some other young, QB stud coming out of this year's draft class that I never could bring myself to believe that the brilliant Andy Reid, and John Dorsey would actually trade for Alex Smith. Then they did. And I was crushed. I whined, complained, and proclaimed I could no longer care about this team. But I was born and raised inside the walls of this Kingdom. I could never pack my bags and walk away.

So I started thinking about what all of this meant. The first thing that came to mind was that it was obvious our new leadership didn't see what I saw in this year's crop of field generals. They agreed with the majority of people out there saying there was very, very little to be excited about out of the QB's entering the NFL this year. It also occurred to me that they must have thought very highly of Alex Smith considering the compensation that is being rumored to be given up for him. And I wondered if all the work we put in with Save Our Chiefs last year was in vein.

I mean, we've seen this movie. Over, and over, and over again. This is the 5th 49er retread this franchise has brought in for us over the last 25 years. And the great Joe Montana was the only one that has provided us with a playoff win. So naturally my thought process was “Here we go again! New Chiefs, same as the old Chiefs!”

Then I started doing my homework and watching the last couple of years of Alex Smith. This is a what have you done for me lately league, so I wasn't really worried about his first few years in the league. Coaching changes year after year, and no real continuity was what greeted him to the league. Jim Harbaugh came in and 2011 Alex Smith made some instant strides. I saw some things out of him that have now convinced me that this time the sequel could be better than the original. Here are some reasons I believe Alex Smith can help lead us to the promised land.

1. Leadership. Probably the most important thing a QB has to have, and something that has lacked in KC for the last couple of years. 2012 was a huge indicator of that. The Chiefs didn't believe in their QB and their play reflected it. On both sides of the ball. Alex Smith didn't have a contract with the 49ers the year of the lockout. Yet it was widely reported he still got his hands on Jim Harbaugh's new playbook and organized practices with his teammates. They rallied around him, and the proof is in the pudding. A muffed punt away from the Super Bowl.

2. Clutch. He has it. Tons of it. The biggest indicator was in his first playoff game. Back and forth, and they fell behind with around a minute left in the game. Alex marched them down the field and on a 3rd and 3 with his team in field goal position, he made his best pass of the entire game to score the game winning TD. On the biggest stage of his life. His coach could've easily played it safe and went for over time, but he believed in Alex. And that belief paid off with a win.

3. Field awareness. I watched a lot of tape. When Alex got loose of the pocket and had to scramble, he knew where the first down marker was. I watched him twist, and turn. Take hits, and deliver hits to get to that first down marker. No fetal position from Alex Smith. He went for it. Consistantly.

4. Progressions. I watched him go through progressions when he needed too. I haven't seen a lot of Alex locking onto a guy and just winging it in there regardless of coverage. That said, I've also seen him wing that ball in between two defenders where only his guy can catch the ball. And there's enough strength in his throws that the ball is there before the defender can respond too it.

5. Coaching. It took an elite coach to get the very best out of Alex Smith. And when he received that, he excelled instantaneously. What better coach, or situation could Alex Smith go to right now and replicate that success? There isn't one. This is it. Coach Reid, and our squad has the talent to put around Alex, and the ability to give him further insight, and tutilege to enhance, and grow his game.

6. Intangibles. This guy has a fire burning inside of him right now. He finally, finally got a head coach who was able to work with him, and he learned the system. He took his team to the brink of the Super Bowl and didn't get there due to no fault of his own. The very moment he was hurt, he was yanked, replaced, and watched his team go to the same spot that he himself probably could've led them too. He's the hungriest man in professional football right now, maybe in all of professional sports. He has something to prove, and he has a chip on his shoulder. And the way he conducted himself throughout that entire process as it unfolded last year was the mark of a leader.

7. History. Time and time again we've seen the stats that 1st round QB's win Super Bowls. We have not only a 1st round QB in Alex, but the very first pick in the draft. This is what we all wanted. Not how we envisioned it, but history is now on our side.

So there you have it. I've gone through mourning, and I've done my homework. I believe in our coach, and our new general manager, and I do not believe this in any way, shape, or form is remniscent of Scott *****, and the moves he made when he came to Kansas City. And I think that is truly our biggest fear. Because this move looks SO closely like the one Scooter made when he came to town, that we are all going to be relegated to that kind of failure over the next half decade.

I just don't think so. I think we have a former number 1 overall pick, that was the consensus number 1 at the time. This isn't a guy who backed up Matt Leinart in college. He played, and he played well. And again, this is a what have you done for me lately league. Alex has grown immensely in the last 2-3 years and has shown he has the ability to make the plays, make the throws, use his legs, and win when the game is on the line.

This is the new face of the franchise. Join me in optimism. Let this Kingdom stand tall, and proud, and root our warriors onto victory. We have our field general. And he's proven recently that he has the ability to lead our troops to victory.

[NCommand]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Those are game manager stats. Real QBs throw for more than 4,000 yards. I really hope Reid didn't bring him in here because he can throw for 200 yards a game.

If we ran that kind of offense, yes...and BTW: did Brady, Brees, Rodgers and a million other fantasy football QB's make it to the Superbowl?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by NCommand

Wrong, wrong wrong! More complete ignorance. You need to do some research his 20+ completion percentage. He was one of the tops in the NFL. The point was that within OUR offense, we didn't take too many shots. !

Why do you think that is?

FYI, Alex Smith completed only 9 passes over 20 yards last season.

I don't give a **** about his goddamn percentage. That is not enough.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by NCommand

If we ran that kind of offense, yes...and BTW: did Brady, Brees, Rodgers and a million other fantasy football QB's make it to the Superbowl?

Are you this obtuse for real?

If the Patriots, Saints or Packers had the #2 defense they would be in the Super Bowl.

[RunKC]

Alex Smith is going to rack up a whole bunch of yards simply from Jamaal Charles and Dwayne Bowe just like Cassel did in 2010.

These guys turned Cassel's screen passes/short passes into HUGE gains. The YAC is going to be insane.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

So will Mc Cluster

[NCommand]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Why do you think that is?

FYI, Alex Smith completed only 9 passes over 20 yards last season.

I don't give a **** about his goddamn percentage. That is not enough.

LOL. He played 8 games...case in point; and you need to go further back than that. The point is he is a perfect WCO QB...you know what that is? You know, like the offense you are going to run this year? It's a passing game built on the extension of the running game that takes calculated, higher percentage shots down field and works even better when you have a dynamic RB, TE and at least one dominant WR. Getting the point? But keep bitching about your team getting better, smarter and building off what great pieces you have in place. Bitch about getting one of the best performing QB's over the past two years+ and was getting better each game...and for the first time, 1.5 years into the SAME offense. Imagine what Reid can do after 1 full year under his system...2...3.

Why Go_To_Hell? You apparently already live there...

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Alex Smith is going to rack up a whole bunch of yards

said no one, ever.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by NCommand

Wrong, wrong wrong! More complete ignorance. You need to do some research his 20+ completion percentage. He was one of the tops in the NFL. The point was that within OUR offense, we didn't take too many shots. We used guys like Moss to create space for guys like VD/Crabree underneath. Again, you are getting of the most efficient QB's in the game within whatever offense you run...

...you'll see how efficient he'll be under Reid's offense.

Geno Smith lovers...absolutely CLUELESS!

And what happened to "your offense" when they changed from a game manager to a ****ing franchise quarterback?

Idiot.

Why does your dumb ass think Harbaugh moved on from Smith to CK?

Your dumb ass should be a Chiefs fan.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. In fact, I told everyone here Geno wasn't worth a #1 pick and I tried to be as diplomatic about it as possible.

Needless to say, I got some smack for it, but it's all good, whatever. Too bad you all gave up the #34 pick for Smith, he's not worth it. He's definitely not with the #34 pick and another conditional.

Rumor has it that kc thinks they can trade the #1 overall pick and I'm sure kc can. But what will kc get in return? Not much IMHO.

[BossChief]

NCommand, close your mouth, wipe the drool from your chin and go apologize to your parents for failing them and kill yourself.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. In fact, I told everyone here Geno wasn't worth a #1 pick and I tried to be as diplomatic about it as possible.

Needless to say, I got some smack for it, but it's all good, whatever. Too bad you all gave up the #34 pick for Smith, he's not worth it. He's definitely not with the #34 pick and another conditional.

Rumor has it that kc thinks they can trade the #1 overall pick and I'm sure kc can. But what will kc get in return? Not much IMHO.

Geno isn't worth our first round pick, but Alex smith is worth 2 second round picks, one being guaranteed is basically a first round pick, given the depth in this draft.

[NCommand]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Your dumb ass should be a Chiefs fan.

Best line ever!

Good luck next year...

[Hammock Parties]

49ers fans:

Answer one question about your beloved Alex Smith.

Why did he have a 2-27-1 record against teams that scored 24 or more points?

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by NCommand

You all are some of THE most uneducated fans I have ever read...worse than Raider fans. Think about that for a second. Game manager. LOL

THAT was the type of offense we ran full scale. WHEN we needed to go spread, we did...and won...you know, against GB, Detroit, NO and all the Madden QB's you guys lust over...yet you ignore QBR, YPA, etc.

Even the more "dynamic" CK ended up having the same kind of numbers in OUR offense...just a different style...same results.

Now, let's look at REID'S offense. Alex loves the TE's and spreading teams out and moving the ball in the intermediate/short range. But his best throw is the seam route. The guy didn't need to throw even 1 deep ball a game to win...so why would he? 300 yard games? LOL...replace those with WINS. He was about as efficient with an offense as you can get. And when he gets Reid's WCO down (he's probably already studying it knowing him) and gets many, many, many more attempts (passing game = extension of the run game) watch for the deep routes to open up and rhythm to get better and better between he and your WR's. And we've NEVER had a Bowe. He won't be cautious/safe with him.

L O L O L O L O L O L O L O L O L O L O L O LOLOLOlololololol


Am so sure it's going to work out jus like this.


If the offense isn't humming 35-45 points a game then we arn't winning shit. That is what it takes to win big games and in the playoffs and the Super Bowl. Alex Smiff is not the QB that makes an offense produce points in bunches in games. He is a game managager relies on the run game dink and dunk and playaction. Field goals are Alex Smiffs & Chiefs fans friend.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. In fact, I told everyone here Geno wasn't worth a #1 pick and I tried to be as diplomatic about it as possible.

Needless to say, I got some smack for it, but it's all good, whatever. Too bad you all gave up the #34 pick for Smith, he's not worth it. He's definitely not with the #34 pick and another conditional.

Rumor has it that kc thinks they can trade the #1 overall pick and I'm sure kc can. But what will kc get in return? Not much IMHO.

I disagree, but I don't have any choice in the matter. Damn shame.