Chiefs I think its time for the Cassel doubters to eat their crow - Page 17

RedThat · 12-19-2010, 03:44 PM

The kid deserves some respect.

After todays game Im starting to believe in the guy as our quarterback. He just displayed a true testament of toughness out there and leadership.

To some people I understand its about him leading us to the playoffs and winning the superbowl in order for them to be satisfied...yada yada yada

Im not going to go by that mindset at all. I look at this game and I see the way he played and it tells me a lot about his character. We should be proud. We got a pretty good quarterback folks. That 2nd round pick we gave up was well worth it.

I think composure, toughness, and leadership are key attributes for a quarterback. Cassel has those qualities and I also love the fact that he plays with passion too.

However, I believe the number one attribute as a quarterback is the ability to respond under pressure. So now I don't want to jump the gun here and say he has that capability, but I will say, after coming back from an appendectomy and performing the way he did, is a great sign and a step in the direction towards performing well under pressure. So far so good Matt. Keep up the good work

you sure as heck got my support.

milkman · 12-19-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Dude, did you see how many times I tried to point it out? Yet he continued on with it? Seriously...come on...I can take a lot, but someone lying is utter BS...Especially when it has been pointed out....I think I pointed it out as a straw man argument SEVERAL times...

besides, the contentiousness was started with him referring to me as 'browneyes' or somehting.....out of the blue...

I'm suggesting that you should have qouted the post to show that you didn't say what he thinks you said.

milkman · 12-19-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Stop talking about my dick!

I'm not a dick.
I'm an asshole.

**dirk digler** · 12-19-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Mecca has been scarce. Everybody else has been around.

Has anyone heard from Mecca?

ChiefsCountry · 12-19-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

NFC North next year, right? If so, the schedule won't be as difficult as many of us fear.

AFC East as well. Plus the division champions.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-19-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'm suggesting that you should have qouted the post to show that you didn't say what he thinks you said.

I believe I did that multiple times but here it is:

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

The vast majority of people on CP (at least who actually made posts) were HIGHLY negative about Cassel and didn't think he would do shit this season.

I am pretty sure that I linked back to this in our conversation ...Honestly I don't know how he got 'wanting' him to fail from that....Certainly I wasn't very positive about Cassel, but that doesn't mean I wanted him to fail....just the opposite.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-19-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Has anyone heard from Mecca?

Nope.

And while I don't have the issue with Mecca that most do, things seem to be much better when both he and TheGuardian are MIA.

milkman · 12-19-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Has anyone heard from Mecca?

Remember the scene at the end of the movie "Miracle on 34th Street" with the little girl in the car saying over and over "I believe, I believe" just before she sees the house that she wished for for Christmas?

I can almost see mecca lurking and saying "They can't make the playoffs, they can't make the playoffs" and if the Chiefs lose a game that costs them the playoffs, he'll be posting faster than the little girl running into the house.

|Zach| · 12-19-2010, 05:55 PM

It warms my heart that everyone else finally sees what a douchebag mcgee mecca is.

**dirk digler** · 12-19-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Nope.

And while I don't have the issue with Mecca that most do, things seem to be much better when both he and TheGuardian are MIA.

I thought you guys all had each other on speed dial?

Let me add Mecca is a million times better than Guardian

milkman · 12-19-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

It warms my heart that everyone else finally sees what a douchebag mcgee mecca is.

I actually have no issue with mecca, but I do have this sense that he just hates to be wrong.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-19-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I thought you guys all had each other on speed dial?

Let me add Mecca is a million times better than Guardian

Being a noob, I really haven't gotten to experience Mecca in his full glory I guess...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-19-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I thought you guys all had each other on speed dial?

Let me add Mecca is a million times better than Guardian

Goes without saying.

**dirk digler** · 12-19-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Remember the scene at the end of the movie "Miracle on 34th Street" with the little girl in the car saying over and over "I believe, I believe" just before she sees the house that she wished for for Christmas?

I can almost see mecca lurking and saying "They can't make the playoffs, they can't make the playoffs" and if the Chiefs lose a game that costs them the playoffs, he'll be posting faster than the little girl running into the house.

I never liked that movie

**Baby Lee** · 12-19-2010, 06:00 PM

I'd think that this was stupidity, if you didn't selectively quote to AGAIN try to alter the terms of the debate

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

**** all of that shit....Whoever says any of that stuff is going to extremes to either get a reaction or is just a moron.

The vast majority of people on CP (at least who actually made posts) were HIGHLY negative about Cassel and didn't think he would do shit this season.

They were wrong, period. No need to go any further than that...They were horribly horribly wrong about Cassel...

They can TRY to move the goal posts all they want to, because it makes them feel better....But deep down they know they didn't give him enough of a chance before they gave up on the kid. **** them...He is improving and has a ways to go, he proved he isn't garbage, he proved he is a pretty good QB, now lets see what else he can prove.

So you've identified your offending party and what they've done wrong.

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Hey Browneyes, you're fighting a strawman utterly of your own invention.

Plenty of people, myself EXPRESSLY, were of the mindset 'I pray daily that the lights come on, but I increasingly fear they won't.'

First identified my target party of a sizeable contingent of people who didn't fit your definition

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And sure there were a number who were vocal at every instance that reinforced those fears, but that's just passionate fans watching the evidence mount.

Then I identified a smaller contingent that might've come closer to your beef, and pointed out that it wasn't having nothing good to say about him as much as it was real time passionate reaction when the evidence counter to something good showed up on the field [and remember, this was well before you set up your April time frame after the fact]

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And the number to 'WANT' him to fail just to be right are miniscule, perhaps isolated to Mecca, certainly not the 'overwhelming majority.'

If it wasn't clear from the 'miniscule' and 'isolated to mecca,' I wasn't literally positing that you thought the majority thought that. I was just trying to tie back in an amusing way the initial premise. As in,
the first group wasn't an vast majority,
and neither was the second,
and CERTAINLY not the third [which, as I already noted, you guys like to ominously refer to as 'some people'].

Basically, I was identifying as many camps of 'detractors' as I could and pointing out that no amalgamation of them comprise the 'vast majority' you posit.

If you indeed thought I was trying to pin that absurd claim on you I'll go ahead and apologize. But it seems pretty clear to me that I was doing no such thing.

Reerun_KC · 12-19-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Being a noob, I really haven't gotten to experience Mecca in his full glory I guess...

You werent missing anything....

Mecca is one of the founding members of the Draftabulators or 4 horsemen...

Long with OTWP, Dane and Hamas.... They are getting better, but for about 18 months leading up to this season, they hated everything and anything Chiefs...

And if you disagreed with them.. They called you bad names...

12-19-2010, 03:44 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I think its time for the Cassel doubters to eat their crow The kid deserves some respect. After todays game Im starting to believe in the guy as our quarterback. He just displayed a true testament of toughness out there and leadership. To some people I understand its about him leading us to the playoffs and winning the superbowl in order for them to be satisfied...yada yada yada Im not going to go by that mindset at all. I look at this game and I see the way he played and it tells me a lot about his character. We should be proud. We got a pretty good quarterback folks. That 2nd round pick we gave up was well worth it. I think composure, toughness, and leadership are key attributes for a quarterback. Cassel has those qualities and I also love the fact that he plays with passion too. However, I believe the number one attribute as a quarterback is the ability to respond under pressure. So now I don't want to jump the gun here and say he has that capability, but I will say, after coming back from an appendectomy and performing the way he did, is a great sign and a step in the direction towards performing well under pressure. So far so good Matt. Keep up the good work you sure as heck got my support.
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\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5176768	It warms my heart that everyone else finally sees what a douchebag mcgee mecca is.
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