Royals OFFICIAL Rangers vs Royals weekend series thread - Page 17

Hammock Parties · 07-24-2009, 05:48 PM

Let's get it ON motherhumpers! Tonight your asses are MINE!

Feldman (8-3 3.87) vs Greinke (10-5 2.08)

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-25-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

It's funny. One thing I noticed when Trey Hillman got tossed, and can't control the team from the clubhouse, the Team is ACTUALLY more effective than Hillman being on the dugout.

I bet Soren Petro will notice it too.
And talk about it for four hours straight.

**Reaper16** · 07-25-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

It's funny. One thing I noticed when Trey Hillman got tossed, and can't control the team from the clubhouse, the Team is ACTUALLY more effective than Hillman being on the dugout.

Doesn't surprise me at all.

DJ's left nut · 07-25-2009, 08:14 PM

Congrats.

I know I was in favor of Soria for 2 innings, but man he sure labored tonight. Maybe he just doesn't have the mentality for it because he certainly wasn't the bulldog he usually is.

The streak's broken, I'd think long and hard before I asked him to do that again. I really was surprised by how tentative he looked and how absolutely gassed he appeared by the end.

**Reaper16** · 07-25-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Congrats.

I know I was in favor of Soria for 2 innings, but man he sure labored tonight. Maybe he just doesn't have the mentality for it because he certainly wasn't the bulldog he usually is.

The streak's broken, I'd think long and hard before I asked him to do that again. I really was surprised by how tentative he looked and how absolutely gassed he appeared by the end.

He couldn't locate his curveball.

DJ's left nut · 07-25-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

He couldn't locate his curveball.

He didn't have any faith in his change either. His fastball had great armside run but was down about 3 mph. Maybe it was as simple as him just not having his best stuff, but he seemed tentative. Didn't you notice how much more aggressive he was with that last batter? It looked like in his conversation with the C he just said "look, we're finishing this right here" and came right at him. He certainly didn't approach the previous 5 outs that way.

Didn't you think he looked blasted by the end of it? I've seen plenty of relievers asked to go a 2nd inning, I don't recall ever seeing one look so physically abused by it before.

I'll tip my cap a little to Hillman here, I think there's a pretty good reason that he has avoided Soria for 2 because he didn't look like a guy that oughta be doing it often.

tk13 · 07-25-2009, 08:21 PM

I don't think there are many closers who can go 2 innings a shot. And at least survive a long time. They start pacing themselves. Much better when they can come in for one inning and let it go. I don't think Hillman has done a very good job of handling the staff, but that's more about the starters, the Soria thing really wasn't my biggest worry. Especially with his arm troubles. If you can't find someone to bridge the gap in the 8th on a consistent basis you're in trouble anyway. Even the Yankees with Rivera have had problems this decade because they never have a consistent bullpen, and they have Mariano Rivera. One guy isn't going to carry your bullpen. And if he does, he's going to end up like Scott Williamson.

**Reaper16** · 07-25-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He didn't have any faith in his change either. His fastball had great armside run but was down about 3 mph. Maybe it was as simple as him just not having his best stuff, but he seemed tentative. Didn't you notice how much more aggressive he was with that last batter? It looked like in his conversation with the C he just said "look, we're finishing this right here" and came right at him. He certainly didn't approach the previous 5 outs that way.

Didn't you think he looked blasted by the end of it? I've seen plenty of relievers asked to go a 2nd inning, I don't recall ever seeing one look so physically abused by it before.

I'll tip my cap a little to Hillman here, I think there's a pretty good reason that he has avoided Soria for 2 because he didn't look like a guy that oughta be doing it often.

Keep your cap level.

Soria looked more frustrated than gassed to me. But whatever. I don't really give a ****.

Pioli Zombie · 07-25-2009, 08:50 PM

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Mizzou_8541 · 07-25-2009, 09:00 PM

Just saw the box score...Soria pitched two innings?!?! Hillman is such a crafty manager...

Sure-Oz · 07-25-2009, 09:18 PM

Just heard Hochevar had 13k's wtf is that shit?? 9 and 13k efforts back to back, saw the highlights, his ****ng curve was wicked....

has he found an out pitch or is this just dumb luck for a guy that isn't supposed to strike out much

as for Soria, im surprised he threw 45 pitches and did 2 inn.

**Reaper16** · 07-25-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Just heard Hochevar had 13k's wtf is that shit?? 9 and 13k efforts back to back, saw the highlights, his ****ng curve was wicked....

has he found an out pitch or is this just dumb luck for a guy that isn't supposed to strike out much

as for Soria, im surprised he threw 45 pitches and did 2 inn.

Hoch has legitimately looked good these past few starts. But I have to keep in mind that his 9k game and this 13k game were against the top two strikeout teams in the AL. Nonetheless, those were good hitters that Luke has been striking out in bunches.

Mr. Arrowhead · 07-25-2009, 09:27 PM

im loving the way Hoch, is progressing, he seems like he gets better every time he pitches, which cant be said for everyone on our team

Sure-Oz · 07-25-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Hoch has legitimately looked good these past few starts. But I have to keep in mind that his 9k game and this 13k game were against the top two strikeout teams in the AL. Nonetheless, those were good hitters that Luke has been striking out in bunches.

It is definetly impressive regardless and should help his confidence a ton...that said i cut david price on my fantasy team afte giving up 6 runs in 3 innings and struggling all year for me for Hochevar tonight, LOL

Sure-Oz · 07-25-2009, 09:32 PM

The biggest thing about Hoch his last 2 starts, ZERO walks

Sure-Oz · 07-25-2009, 09:49 PM

Apparently before the game DM said he wants TPJ to go to Surprise AZ to start pitching....yes PITCHING...

He has till monday i believe to accept this assignment. about ****ing time they tried this, i hope he gives it a shot, cause he has no career at SS, and he has an arm.

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07-25-2009, 08:21 PM	#246
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1707500	I don't think there are many closers who can go 2 innings a shot. And at least survive a long time. They start pacing themselves. Much better when they can come in for one inning and let it go. I don't think Hillman has done a very good job of handling the staff, but that's more about the starters, the Soria thing really wasn't my biggest worry. Especially with his arm troubles. If you can't find someone to bridge the gap in the 8th on a consistent basis you're in trouble anyway. Even the Yankees with Rivera have had problems this decade because they never have a consistent bullpen, and they have Mariano Rivera. One guy isn't going to carry your bullpen. And if he does, he's going to end up like Scott Williamson.
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07-25-2009, 09:18 PM	#250
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Join Date: Dec 2001 Casino cash: $1799383	Just heard Hochevar had 13k's wtf is that shit?? 9 and 13k efforts back to back, saw the highlights, his ****ng curve was wicked.... has he found an out pitch or is this just dumb luck for a guy that isn't supposed to strike out much as for Soria, im surprised he threw 45 pitches and did 2 inn.
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07-25-2009, 09:27 PM	#252
Mr. Arrowhead MVP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10015708	im loving the way Hoch, is progressing, he seems like he gets better every time he pitches, which cant be said for everyone on our team
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07-25-2009, 09:32 PM	#254
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Join Date: Dec 2001 Casino cash: $1799383	The biggest thing about Hoch his last 2 starts, ZERO walks
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07-25-2009, 09:49 PM	#255
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Join Date: Dec 2001 Casino cash: $1799383	Apparently before the game DM said he wants TPJ to go to Surprise AZ to start pitching....yes PITCHING... He has till monday i believe to accept this assignment. about ****ing time they tried this, i hope he gives it a shot, cause he has no career at SS, and he has an arm.
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