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Old 07-14-2013, 01:29 PM   #1
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None of this happens if tm just goes home too.
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Do we have any evidence that TM stopped going home prior to him fighting Zimmerman? We do know that his body was found 20-30 feet closer to his house than where Zimmerman said the fight took place. So how do you know Martin wasn't still on his way home before him and Zimmerman ran into each other.
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:33 PM   #2
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Do we have any evidence that TM stopped going home prior to him fighting Zimmerman? We do know that his body was found 20-30 feet closer to his house than where Zimmerman said the fight took place. So how do you know Martin wasn't still on his way home before him and Zimmerman ran into each other.
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For sake of conversation, let's say your speculation is fact.

Neither Zimmerman nor Martin broke any laws until Martin chose to assault Zimmerman.
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:41 PM   #3
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For sake of conversation, let's say your speculation is fact.

Neither Zimmerman nor Martin broke any laws until Martin chose to assault Zimmerman.
...according to Zimmerman.

And I have never denied Martin kicked Zimmerman's ass. The biggest thing I have a problem with is the fact that Zimmerman claims his head was bashed repeatedly against concrete and yet he only had a 0.5cm cut and 2cm cut to the back of his head. Unless he has the toughest scalp in the world, there's no way his head was bashed repeatedly agaisnt the concrete and only produced those tiny insignificant scars.

I have a big problem with the fact that he says he felt his life was in danger. His injuries were consistent with someone in a normal fist fight, not someone who had to tight for his life. People getting their ass beat shouldn't be an excuse to kill someone because if so, all the badasses on CP have had a valid reason to be killed according to the stories they tell about the fights they've been in.
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:35 PM   #4
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Do we have any evidence that TM stopped going home prior to him fighting Zimmerman? We do know that his body was found 20-30 feet closer to his house than where Zimmerman said the fight took place. So how do you know Martin wasn't still on his way home before him and Zimmerman ran into each other.
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he didn't go 20-30 feet after the fight.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:38 PM   #5
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he didn't go 20-30 feet after the fight.
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Not what I was talking about. Look at where Zimmerman said the fight took place in the reenactment. Then look at where Martin's body was found. Those two locations are 20-30 feet away from each other meaning that Zimmerman likely followed Martin for a whole lot longer than he let on and that he wasn't walking back to his car like he says he was.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:40 PM   #6
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Not what I was talking about. Look at where Zimmerman said the fight took place in the reenactment. Then look at where Martin's body was found. Those two locations are 20-30 feet away from each other meaning that Zimmerman likely followed Martin for a whole lot longer than he let on and that he wasn't walking back to his car like he says he was.
or it could mean it was dark and he didn't realize exactly where they were, especially if he lost sight of tm
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:05 PM   #7
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The origin of everything started with Z.....his actions led to murder.....
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:08 PM   #8
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The origin of everything started with Z.....his actions led to murder.....
Tm had quite a few chances to chance the course of things after z got out of his vehicle.

it goes both ways
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:11 PM   #9
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Tm had quite a few chances to chance the course of things after z got out of his vehicle.

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You wouldn't think so, judging by the comments on this board....So that just means he played a part in this.....I go to the origin of an issue and you can't escape the cause and just run to the symptom.....The cause was his billy bad ass act based on a black kid that he didn't know walking in the neighborhood and he assumed he was up to no good based on recent break ins.....What part of that is not fact?
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You wouldn't think so, judging by the comments on this board....So that just means he played a part in this.....I go to the origin of an issue and you can't escape the cause and just run to the symptom.....The cause was his billy bad ass act based on a black kid that he didn't know walking in the neighborhood and he assumed he was up to no good based on recent break ins.....What part of that is not fact?
None of those facts are breaking the law
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None of those facts are breaking the law
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He'll keep ignoring that.
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Martin had a history of breaking laws. Who knows whether or not he was up to no good? When given the opportunity to beat a man down he certainly took it.

The only thing that led to murder was Martin committing assault.
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Martin had a history of breaking laws. Who knows whether or not he was up to no good? When given the opportunity to beat a man down he certainly took it.

The only thing that led to murder was Martin committing assault.
Fat boy didn't know the kid's history or jack shit about Martin....Try again
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Fat boy didn't know the kid's history or jack shit about Martin....Try again
He was suspicious of an individual with a history of running afoul of the law.

Would you say his suspicions were confirmed when he felt the concrete cracking his head open?
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:18 PM   #15
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He was suspicious of an individual with a history of running afoul of the law.

Would you say his suspicions were confirmed when he felt the concrete cracking his head open?
GZ also had run ins with the law...
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