Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 174

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Great Expectations · 11-26-2013, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

What is two years of Kendrick worth at 19M?

Davis, Hoch, and Guthrie. It frees up enough money to sign Beltran and another starter, we start the year with:

Shields
Ventura
Vargas
Duffy
Smith/FA

Lineup of:
Gordon
Kendrick
Beltran
Butler
Hosmer
Perez
Cain
Moose
Escobar

eazyb81 · 11-26-2013, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

What is two years of Kendrick worth at 19M?

Seems like they really want pitching, so maybe we can structure a deal around some high-end bullpen pieces like Hochevar or Crow and some mid-level prospects. I certainly wouldn't want to give up Zimmer, Ventura, Manaea, or Mondesi in a deal.

BlackHelicopters · 11-26-2013, 08:57 AM

Without two added bats ar RF and 2B, the Vargas signing is a step backward.

siberian khatru · 11-26-2013, 09:55 AM

A heads up: this twitter handle and its focus will change in a few weeks. Have accepted a job in Tacoma to cover the Mariners.
— Bob Dutton (@Royals_Report) November 26, 2013

Strongside · 11-26-2013, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

A heads up: this twitter handle and its focus will change in a few weeks. Have accepted a job in Tacoma to cover the Mariners.
— Bob Dutton (@Royals_Report) November 26, 2013

NOW THAT'S A MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT.

seaofred · 11-26-2013, 10:19 AM

Thank goodness. That guy is terrible.

Strongside · 11-26-2013, 10:20 AM

The curious case of Denjamin Dutton.

CaliforniaChief · 11-26-2013, 10:53 AM

He kinda grew on me a little. Love the sarcasm for sure. But probably not a bad time for change.

eazyb81 · 11-26-2013, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred

Thank goodness. That guy is terrible.

Disagree. I thought he was great.

WhawhaWhat · 11-26-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Disagree. I thought he was great.

I loved how he trolled the morons that tweeted him stupid questions.

SPATCH · 11-26-2013, 11:37 AM

Dutton's world-weary/defeated approach to twitter was actually pretty awesome.

Oh well. I, for one, invite a little change every once in a while.

Nightfyre · 11-26-2013, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Davis, Hoch, and Guthrie. It frees up enough money to sign Beltran and another starter, we start the year with:

Shields
Ventura
Vargas
Duffy
Smith/FA

Lineup of:
Gordon
Kendrick
Beltran
Butler
Hosmer
Perez
Cain
Moose
Escobar

I doubt that would get it done, but it would certainly be transformational.

ChiefsCountry · 11-26-2013, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Kendrick to KC could be "decent match" speculates 1 baseball person. Laa still looking for pitching.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) November 26, 2013

So Boras wants Hocheaver in Los Angeles.

seaofred · 11-26-2013, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Disagree. I thought he was great.

Well, you can disagree, but you'd be wrong.

KCUnited · 11-26-2013, 11:56 AM

I got dutton.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
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