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Old 10-17-2010, 02:24 PM  
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Reflections on a Rat****ing

But not by the refs


First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend.

Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel.

I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed
tackles.

I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself
out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop.

Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD.


If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.


The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the
previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history.


It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be.


Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson?

DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game.

Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time.

The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown.


That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.
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Old 10-17-2010, 07:46 PM   #256
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And there's the rub, Mr. KC kid.

Casscan has lost my support. I was very much in favor of him becoming a successful quarterback for a long time ... most of last season, in fact. And, even today, were he to douse himself with magic splooge and somehow transform himself into a true, dependable, reliable, consistent QB, I'd support him again. I just don't believe it's possible anymore.

So, speaking for myself, I'm kinda stuck. I'd like him to perform better, yet I fear that, were he to do so, he would remain our quarterback and we would forestall the decision to improve at that position. That's the problem.

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understandable...we keep hearing haley tell us that we are still in the process of buliding a really solid foundation. i don't think anyone expected the defense to rise so quickly, hence unrealistic expectations. i'm wondering if haley and company didn't expect him burn barns right off the bat, andare bringing him along with the team, and they all explode close to the same time.
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:08 PM   #257
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If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.
Don't feel one bit foolish because we have seen this same scenario from Bowe before and we need a "consistent" Big Time No.1 receiver PERIOD. You watch Bowe will break our hearts several more times this yr.
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:19 PM   #258
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:27 PM   #259
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understandable...we keep hearing haley tell us that we are still in the process of buliding a really solid foundation. i don't think anyone expected the defense to rise so quickly, hence unrealistic expectations. i'm wondering if haley and company didn't expect him burn barns right off the bat, andare bringing him along with the team, and they all explode close to the same time.
To your point, I keep telling myself that Mule Casspinch lacks game experience and that, ultimately, he'll grow into his role and responsibilities. My sadness is fostered by the fact that I see him playing, essentially, the same way game in, game out.

At this juncture, I don't think it's too early to declare him a class-A neuron. I have to admit, though, I'm torn. I'd like to see our passing game take off like a bat out of hell rather than a dead rat falling on its ass from a balcony railing. On the other hand, I'm pretty convinced that, the more time we spend waiting for Cassclap to "explode" is time we could put to better use by jamming french fries up our nose.

I do, however, agree that we may be well ahead of schedule overall ... in terms of the "rebuild", I mean. It could well be that the improvement we thought we saw in our defense is real. The Vixens are a damn good offense and can put up a ton of points in a short time and they seem to prefer doing it in the second half of games ... as we saw today. This was no slouch offense that defeated us today. Not by a long shot.

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Old 10-17-2010, 08:30 PM   #260
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Let me preface this by saying...

I probably can never go back to the bar where I go to watch football games...

That's how I responded to this loss.

Now...

This game wasn't Matt Cassel...for one time in his Chiefs career he looked good...and he had full command of the offense and he displayed some confidence...

He could have done better...but he didn't.

The defense was built up as some juggernaut that it wasn't today...plain and simple.

And that's why we lost.

Now I'm logging out.

Bye,
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:31 PM   #261
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Let me preface this by saying...

I probably can never go back to the bar where I go to watch football games...

That's how I responded to this loss.

Now...

This game wasn't Matt Cassel...for one time in his Chiefs career he looked good...and he had full command of the offense and he displayed some confidence...

He could have done better...but he didn't.

The defense was built up as some juggernaut that it wasn't today...plain and simple.

And that's why we lost.

Now I'm logging out.

Bye,
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:52 PM   #262
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So, just like every other game he's played?
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Old 10-17-2010, 10:42 PM   #263
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So, just like every other game he's played?
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Dane's right. Matt Cassel leads his receiver, and Moeaki is wide the **** open. Instead, he lobs the ball over the head of a receiver who has inside positioning. That's asking a lot of your receiver.

It was the right read, but a horrible pass.
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Old 10-17-2010, 10:45 PM   #265
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Let me preface this by saying...

I probably can never go back to the bar where I go to watch football games...

That's how I responded to this loss.

Now...

This game wasn't Matt Cassel...for one time in his Chiefs career he looked good...and he had full command of the offense and he displayed some confidence...

He could have done better...but he didn't.

The defense was built up as some juggernaut that it wasn't today...plain and simple.

And that's why we lost.

Now I'm logging out.

Bye,
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Old 10-17-2010, 10:48 PM   #266
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Improvement from Cassel is a good thing, it means we might have found our BQBOTF (backup quarterback of the future, for those that couldn't figure that out)

I think his "work ethic" and "fake leadership" are things that a good clipboard holder needs to have and that if we can restructure his deal, he may just be the guy that can take our backup offense to the "promised land" and that he deep down knows his role here is gonna be exactly that, the same it was in college and the same it was in NE (until, as a backup does, he gets to play once an injury happens to the starter)
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A big THIS!

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